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Old 10-16-2023, 12:01 AM
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V61 Neilson cards will also get this frosted over look, due to the gloss. I know because I soaked some many years ago, and ruined they became. What Rhett suggests is probably the only way you can make removal work.

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Old 10-16-2023, 09:38 AM
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That milky haze may be fixable.

That's very typical for shellack based coatings that get wet. The shellac absorbs moisture and gets cloudy like that.

While this advice is about fixing it on furniture, the bit about brushing on some alcohol might work. It would probably redissolve the glosscoat, allowing it to dry clear again.

I would consider it altered, as the glosscoat was essentially redistributed, but it sort of already is.

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Steve, I took a watercolor brush and wiped the card down with rubbing alcohol. After 2 hours of drying, here it is. The film came off along with lots of dirt and grime.
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Steve, I took a watercolor brush and wiped the card down with rubbing alcohol. After 2 hours of drying, here it is. The film came off along with lots of dirt and grime.
wooooo thats great !!!
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What an improvement, but now we perhaps know how some color variations come into being...check out how the glove on the Davis card is now yellow.

I think I still have a V61 I destroyed with soaking. Perhaps someday I will give it a try and dry.

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What an improvement, but now we perhaps know how some color variations come into being...check out how the glove on the Davis card is now yellow.

I think I still have a V61 I destroyed with soaking. Perhaps someday I will give it a try and dry.

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Probably an indication that at least one of the colors was also done with an ink that's shellac based.

Removing the wrecked gloss certainly improved the look, It should be possible to reconstitute it without removal. All things considered, the removal was probably best even if a red layer was lost as well.
It's also possible the darkening of the gloss coat accentuated an existing red that's still there.
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Old 10-20-2023, 09:27 PM
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The card came in today and I couldn’t help myself. Cracked it out of the slab, took a razor blade and started peeling off paper thin sheets of the cardboard until I was left with an almost transparent piece. Took a paintbrush and lightly brushed water on the remaining cardboard and slowly peeled it off. I’m extremely happy with the results! Here is the before and after pictures
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