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I feel terrible for the individual lot “winners” but it’s actually very simple. The
set lot closed and I was declared the winner. The hammer fell. The post sale bids are a nullity. I have an authentic Joe Jackson Boston Garter, a 1914 Herzog and a 2012 Boston Garter. I am happy to work out sales to the bidders on those two and even sell my 1912 BG if those bidders are interested to mitigate this problem. I feel strongly that I didn’t do anything wrong and once the set sold it sold. There was offer and acceptance. I was told by the web the auction closed I went to sleep. Thank you everyone for informing me as to what happened. Last edited by Powell; 09-30-2023 at 10:57 PM. 
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Really an awful outcome for many. It will be interesting to see what Heritage deems is the correct path to take. In years gone by this forum probably would have had a helluva chat exchange going on while the clock was ticking on these Boston Garter lots. Not griping Leon, just waxing nostalgic.
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10-01-2023, 05:54 AM
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According to HA Web Tips (linked below at end):
Heritage Live FAQ: ‘How do I know if I won the lot? When the lot closes a message in green indicating you won will be displayed (see example below). In addition, you can check the item status in the "Realized Prices" tab. You Won!’ HOWEVER, further down this reference page under Bidding Guidelines it states: ‘If you are the successful high bidder when the auction closes, you will receive an Email confirmation immediately following the auction followed by an E-mail invoice in the next few days for your winnings.‘ https://sports.ha.com/c/ref/web-tips...nes-incrementsAttachment 591429Attachment 591429 Do these conflict in this scenario?? Perhaps the most equitable thing HA can do is refund any money paid so far, declare no true winner given conflicting communications to the individual and lot buyers, and reset the individual and lot auction, which will give everyone a fair and fully informed chance at bidding again. Last edited by brunswickreeves; 10-01-2023 at 06:10 AM.
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10-01-2023, 06:30 AM
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Three things are true here: this is entirely Heritage’s fault by not knowing how to run this particular type of auction (individual lots/full set competing simultaneously), Powell is a huge consigner and customer, and the consigner of the BGs lost money due to Heritage’s error. At the very least, Heritage has to re-do the auction, although at the time Powell was prevented from bidding anymore he was the rightful winner. If I was in charge, I’d give the cards to Powell and compensate all the other parties greatly, although it pains me to say that as Aaron is a great dude and an innocent party here.
If Leland’s was capable of doing the right thing by not trying to force payment from the winner (and my client) of the Tom Brady “final TD pass football” which wasn’t his final TD pass when he announced his comeback the day after the auction end, somehow I think Heritage is capable of being fair here as well.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/sets Last edited by calvindog; 10-01-2023 at 06:47 AM.
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09-30-2023, 11:43 PM
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Well, they better figure it out soon because it is a two-day auction that closes tonight. Once the invoices go out and people start paying, it's going to make things much more complicated.
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