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Old 09-27-2023, 11:16 AM
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I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:40 AM
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I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:45 AM
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I'm 51% sure this person doesn't really know what they are saying, PSA isn't actually this dumb as a whole, and what would actually happen is a reholdering with the baggie things.
Look again at the picture in the original post. It already resides in one of those "baggie things".
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Old 09-27-2023, 11:58 AM
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Look again at the picture in the original post. It already resides in one of those "baggie things".
Raulus' example in post 5; the thicker one with the extra bumpers. I don't know the technical names for the insert types as I don't play the grading game and I don't think I've ever heard one.

I strongly doubt that PSA has a new policy of laminating collectibles that don't easily fit into a holder now. Anyone else reporting this?

I think PSA is both blatantly incompetent and corrupt, but this one is hard to believe is actual policy rather than an uneducated customer service rep using the wrong words.
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Old 09-27-2023, 12:04 PM
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Wow, that policy of lamination should stop yesterday, imo. I really can't believe anyone at PSA signed off on that. (I jest, I believe it)
That is crazy to me. It literally destroys the value.

PS....again, I hope this is only someone who doesn't communicate very well.
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Raulus' example in post 5; the thicker one with the extra bumpers. I don't know the technical names for the insert types as I don't play the grading game and I don't think I've ever heard one.

I strongly doubt that PSA has a new policy of laminating collectibles that don't easily fit into a holder now. Anyone else reporting this?

I think PSA is both blatantly incompetent and corrupt, but this one is hard to believe is actual policy rather than an uneducated customer service rep using the wrong words.
Yeah, you're right... Post #5 looks like a "Baggie done better". It might also be a thicker material than the baggie in the OP. Much better aesthetically, but hopefully not lamination. It's hard to reconcile from the pic how the plastic is not bunched up behind those bumpers.
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They're not even smart enough to holder them in the same direction. Flip on the left, flip on the right. No consistency at all with PSA
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No, they are not laminating your collectibles in the sense that you're thinking of. As Raulus posted, they are using laminate material to encapsulate your cards though. It is the same material that you'd use to laminate a document at FedEx, but they're just heating it in certain spots to hold it from moving around. I've removed these from slabs in the past. It's a very rigid plastic. Technically, this is still referred to as "laminating", it's just not how most of us are used to thinking about it.

"Lamination is the technique/process of manufacturing a material in multiple layers, so that the composite material achieves improved strength, stability, sound insulation, appearance, or other properties from the use of the differing materials, such as plastic."
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No, they are not laminating your collectibles in the sense that you're thinking of. As Raulus posted, they are using laminate material to encapsulate your cards though. It is the same material that you'd use to laminate a document at FedEx, but they're just heating it in certain spots to hold it from moving around. I've removed these from slabs in the past. It's a very rigid plastic. Technically, this is still referred to as "laminating", it's just not how most of us are used to thinking about it.

"Lamination is the technique/process of manufacturing a material in multiple layers, so that the composite material achieves improved strength, stability, sound insulation, appearance, or other properties from the use of the differing materials, such as plastic."
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Thank you, this makes sense.
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They're not even smart enough to holder them in the same direction. Flip on the left, flip on the right. No consistency at all with PSA
What an absolute joke. This alone would have upset me if I was the submitter
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Ken Goldin reached out to help me on this, which was greatly appreciated; at the very least, PSA is listening. I'll say this: dealing with PSA on customer service issues (non-Set Registry issues) prior to it being purchased by Nat Turner was a horror show. The place has drastically improved since then, even if they still have a ways to go.
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As shown in the last post, the problem is that PSA doesn't put the item securely in the slab, allowing it to move around during standard USPS handling.

I've had the exact same thing happen to things like 1974 Topps Stamps, where the stamp ends up diagonal, often with one or more corners in the same situation as Jeff's Gen Custer check.

Here's the image of the check that's on PSA's website:



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