The trend in Wagner cards

[Rhotchkiss]

Last night in REA, (5) playing-days Wagner cards/items sold. Below is a list of those cards, together with the most recent relative VCP comps and date of those comp:

M116 blue, SGC 1:
Sold for -- $27,000
Comp #1 -- SGC 3, sold for $16,800 on 4/23/23
Comp #2 -- SGC 1.5, sold for $4,612 on 7/11/21

E93, PSA 2:
Sold for -- $10,200
Comp #1 -- SGC 3.5, sold for $9,000 on 2/12/23
Comp #2 -- PSA 2, sold for $3,360 on 7/24/21

E106, SGC A:
Sold for -- $7,500
Comp #1 -- SGC 2, sold for $5,450 on 4/24/23
Comp #2 -- PSA 1.5, sold for $18,000 on 4/23/22

E254 Colgan's Chips, PSA 4
Sold for -- $3,600
Comp #1 -- SGC 4, sold for $3,540 on 9/17/22
Comp #2 -- SGC 2, sold for $2,220 on 10/23/22

W555 Wagner, PSA 3 -- no real comps in last 4 years
Sold for -- $4,920
Comp #1 -- SGC 5.5, sold for $1,300 on 10/17/19
Comp #2 -- PSA 5, sold for $710 on 10/11/18

Aside from the Colgan's, all of the other playing-day Wagner that sold last night are continuing the upwards trend. The Colgan's flat results is interesting considering its a portrait pic.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Last night in REA, (5) playing-days Wagner cards/items sold. Below is a list of those cards, together with the most recent relative VCP comps and date of those comp:

M116 blue, SGC 1:
Sold for -- $27,000
Comp #1 -- SGC 3, sold for $16,800 on 4/23/23
Comp #2 -- SGC 1.5, sold for $4,612 on 7/11/21

E93, PSA 2:
Sold for -- $10,200
Comp #1 -- SGC 3.5, sold for $9,000 on 2/12/23
Comp #2 -- PSA 2, sold for $3,360 on 7/24/21

E106, SGC A:
Sold for -- $7,500
Comp #1 -- SGC 2, sold for $5,450 on 4/24/23
Comp #2 -- PSA 1.5, sold for $18,000 on 4/23/22

E254 Colgan's Chips, PSA 4
Sold for -- $3,600
Comp #1 -- SGC 4, sold for $3,540 on 9/17/22
Comp #2 -- SGC 2, sold for $2,220 on 10/23/22

W555 Wagner, PSA 3 -- no real comps in last 4 years
Sold for -- $4,920
Comp #1 -- SGC 5.5, sold for $1,300 on 10/17/19
Comp #2 -- PSA 5, sold for $710 on 10/11/18

Aside from the Colgan's, all of the other playing-day Wagner that sold last night are continuing the upwards trend. The Colgan's flat results is interesting considering its a portrait pic.

Just one data point, but I'm one of the newer vintage collectors among the influx driving up demand on the "lower end" stuff. I had my eye on the Colgan's Wagner but steered clear because the centering was so bad that it triggered my OCD. I thought the PSA 4 grade was a bit of a mirage that might drive up the price, so I bowed out early.

[Touch'EmAll]

Not sure if PSA puts qualifiers on a 4 grade, but the Colgan's Wagner was OC/MC. As we see again - centering, centering, centering.

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by Touch'EmAll

Not sure if PSA puts qualifiers on a 4 grade, but the Colgan's Wagner was OC/MC. As we see again - centering, centering, centering.

According to PSA's site, the off-center tolerance for a "4" is 85/15 on the front and 90/10 on the back. So the item can get a 4 within those parameters, or perhaps a higher grade with an "OC" designation. They can get away without applying the "MC" designation if the centering isn't "an atypical cut for the issue," which is even more subjective.

I don't know if this particular Wagner is "atypical," but it's certainly more off-center than any of the several others I've seen. I do know that this Wagner was previously in an older PSA holder, and it was listed for sale for around $6K in Facebook groups. I'm not sure if PSA is inclined to rubber-stamp the old grade when an item is reslabbed, but it wouldn't surprise me if that happened here.