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Old 09-23-2023, 10:18 AM
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I don’t understand the disdain over an auction house making new customers prove their financial wherewithal to bid in an auction. If a bidder doesn’t pay, it’s a real pain for the AH and the consignor gets screwed. Plus, I think it’s pretty standard business that if you are going to extend credit, which is pretty much what a legally binding bid is, you want to know the person to whom you are extending credit is creditworthy. You don’t have to give a social security number or any info other than a bank statement showing you have the financial wherewithal.

Also, remember the customer is the consignor, not the bidder, and the AH should take reasonable steps to protect the items they sell for their customers. Maybe if they weren’t dealing in other people’s stuff. But AH’s are selling other people’s stuff. As someone who has consigned to numerous auction houses, I would sure want to know that the high bidder on my stuff can and will pay.

Finally, I wonder whether this is more because Goldin or PWCC is requiring this info vs more loved AHs like REA or LOTG.

I don’t know, I don’t think it’s a big deal and a pretty good business practice to make sure bidders can afford to close before you allow them to bid on your customer’s stuff! Seems like a minor inconvenience for the ability to bid
My reaction to PWCC's request was more knee jerk than anything else. Pre-Fantastics, I bid, won and paid for items $10,000 or more from them multiple times, which their records should show, so I was a bit miffed when suddenly I had to prove financial well-being. Obviously, this is Fanatastics strengthening
internal controls and/or I must have really pissed off Brenda.
I generally only share my financial documents with my accountant and investment advisor. There are so many scammers, grifters and con artists out there who live only to obtain innocents' documents and use them for some nefarious purpose.
I can live with occasionally bidding in just their weekly auctions, which have improved, e.g. a beautiful '15 CJ Eddie Collins PSA6, which I won a couple of months ago.
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Old 09-23-2023, 12:08 PM
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The Golden search options should include an option to sort by title (like Heritage) so I don't have to scroll through 1000 modern cards to look for something I might have interest in.
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Old 09-24-2023, 12:24 AM
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My reaction to PWCC's request was more knee jerk than anything else. Pre-Fantastics, I bid, won and paid for items $10,000 or more from them multiple times, which their records should show, so I was a bit miffed when suddenly I had to prove financial well-being. Obviously, this is Fanatastics strengthening
internal controls and/or I must have really pissed off Brenda.
I generally only share my financial documents with my accountant and investment advisor. There are so many scammers, grifters and con artists out there who live only to obtain innocents' documents and use them for some nefarious purpose.
I can live with occasionally bidding in just their weekly auctions, which have improved, e.g. a beautiful '15 CJ Eddie Collins PSA6, which I won a couple of months ago.
Can't you just black out any info you don't want them to see (like account numbers)?
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Old 09-24-2023, 11:17 AM
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I suppose I could but just won't because of the way I feel.
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Another thing with Goldin is they seem to extend their auctions, sometimes multiple times, with no warning. Sometimes 7-10 days before an auction ends a few days will be added and then possibly later on, another day or two added. Have only started to recently see this with them.
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Another thing with Goldin is they seem to extend their auctions, sometimes multiple times, with no warning. Sometimes 7-10 days before an auction ends a few days will be added and then possibly later on, another day or two added. Have only started to recently see this with them.
Yeah, that scenario chaps my ass big time. If someone looks at an auction and doesn’t like the amount of bidding activity …. So be it. Not a reason to continue an auction for more days. If you advertise an auction date stick to it.
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Another thing with Goldin is they seem to extend their auctions, sometimes multiple times, with no warning. Sometimes 7-10 days before an auction ends a few days will be added and then possibly later on, another day or two added. Have only started to recently see this with them.

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Another thing with Goldin is they seem to extend their auctions, sometimes multiple times, with no warning. Sometimes 7-10 days before an auction ends a few days will be added and then possibly later on, another day or two added. Have only started to recently see this with them.
I remember, with their old site, the several times they extended auctions because of technical issues. Now, they're extending auctions at will. I just received this in an email:
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I remember, with their old site, the several times they extended auctions because of technical issues. Now, they're extending auctions at will. I just received this in an email:
Yes, thats one of them Im talking about. But that auction was originally scheduled to end on Wednesday, September 27th and then was moved to Saturday, September 30th, and then moved to October 1st. So, that movement from the 30th to the 1st is an error in their own making or maybe they just wanted to move the auction out of that whole week. Either way, these are things that should be known before starting an auction.
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