PWCC eye appeal rating

[bk400]

Been seeing some cards with this eye appeal rating from PWCC. Is this rating helpful, stupid or somewhere in between? Does anyone put value in what PWCC says about eye appeal?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Who are you going to believe, PWCC or your own lyin' eyes?

[G1911]

Extremely helpful. PWCC’s high integrity, attention to detail, and independence without fiscal interest in the results of a card they certified make them the perfect judges for me to outsource my thinking too.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by g1911

extremely helpful. Pwcc’s high integrity, attention to detail, and independence without fiscal interest in the results of a card they certified make them the perfect judges for me to outsource my thinking too.

lol.

[jchcollins]

I'd say the stickers if anything are worth less than they were before. All of this is gimmickry - purple label, PWCC AA, E, whatever. As TPG grades supposedly consider only the physical condition of the cardboard and not necessarily eye appeal, stickers like this were originally just another stamp of approval that "Yes, this is a PSA 5, but it's a damn GOOD looking PSA 5." Ok, whatever. Given that the 5 itself is just someone's opinion and not an end-all, be-all pronouncement of value and card bragging rights hierarchy, how is a sticker any different?

To me these things are interesting, but unnecessary. Kind of like ebay re-authenticating cards already in PSA and SGC holders and then putting them in a neat little blue box to make them seem more official. It's largely a waste of time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

IMO worthless. But the market at least in the past has typically paid some premium for them.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bk400

Been seeing some cards with this eye appeal rating from PWCC. Is this rating helpful, stupid or somewhere in between? Does anyone put value in what PWCC says about eye appeal?

A. Completely and utterly stupid. It honestly distracts IMHO and will bring down the value in my eyes. The dumb label just means cleaning time I don't feel like using to remove.
B. No one of any true industry knowledge or experience. Noobs and fly-by-nights that will be leaving the hobby as soon as the inevitable settling comes...yes.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by JustinD

A. Completely and utterly stupid. It honestly distracts IMHO and will bring down the value in my eyes. The dumb label just means cleaning time I don't feel like using to remove.

Agreed. And who wants random stickers on their card slabs anyway?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by JustinD

B. No one of any true industry knowledge or experience. Noobs and fly-by-nights that will be leaving the hobby as soon as the inevitable settling comes...yes.

I keep predicting a shakeout for the noobs and goons, and the shakeout keeps defying all of my predictions!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaany day now...

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by raulus

I keep predicting a shakeout for the noobs and goons, and the shakeout keeps defying all of my predictions!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaany day now...

They're waiting for the day their Zion rookie superfractor zebra-striped numbered parallel thingies to get back to the price they paid for them. Then they'll cash out and leave.

[kimo75]

This has always seemed comical to me. To state that something is in the “top 5%” you have to have seen all of the examples. This is why I get my cards graded to sell. There is always a newbie that will overpay because someone has labeled it an 8 or better.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by kimo75

This has always seemed comical to me. To state that something is in the “top 5%” you have to have seen all of the examples. This is why I get my cards graded to sell. There is always a newbie that will overpay because someone has labeled it an 8 or better.

"Best we've ever handled."

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by kimo75

This has always seemed comical to me. To state that something is in the “top 5%” you have to have seen all of the examples.

Exactly, this is ludicrous. As if PWCC had some database of all slabs, and were actually doing the math on their subjective opinions to categorize a top percentage.

When I fixate on a card I'm getting ready to buy, I will sometimes go to YouTube to see if there are videos which can show nuances, etc. There used to be a number of PWCC short videos, with Brentsy himself singing the praises of some 5 or 6 figure vintage card in a PSA or SGC 9. So take the 1963 Topps Mantle, for example. Over the years, there must have been at least 3 or 4 videos of Brent raving on about different examples of that particular card as "the best we've ever seen." Yeah, each and every one of them. Sadly, a lot of these videos have recently been taken down. Guess I don't blame Fanatics for that...

[refz]

Stupid just another un-needed opinion, yet another $ making gimmick. Clearly one can tell a better looking card from another. This is a luxury for the flippers not the collectors.