Cards still being outed on Blowout -- PSA 9 Monte Irvin in the recent ML

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

The green is recolored on back or trimmed to make it look nicer. Check the Blowout post. I think it much more likely that the changes to the border damage to reduce them creates the grade gap rather than a well known masking variant that one can extremely easily and with no effort find several high slabbed examples of.

Would love to see any evidence what I said was "misinformation".

I see no evidence of this claim. This is what I was refuting from the beginning. I see nothing on the back that couldn't be achieved through just humidity/moisture and your finger.

Also, the expected variance for minor blemishes to appear and/or disappear from one scan to the next, let alone from one scanner to the next, is *much* wider than many people realize. I have thousands of duplicate scans of cards taken from different scanners and/or different settings at different times of the same cards that I could post and people would swear they were recolored or damaged, yet nothing was done to them.

Also, some blemishes simply disappear when a card is soaked in water. And contrary to what many claim/wish to be true, this practice is still allowed.

This reminds me of the 52 Mantle that started all these BODA threads a few years back. Nearly everyone on Blowout, page after page after page, were launching their disdain over the "trimmed" 52 Mantle. Each one pointing out which edges had so clearly been cut up. Yet, the card itself had not been trimmed at all. Not even by the width of a human hair. The card had simply been soaked in water and seemingly no one was capable of making this observation (I think there was eventually one guy who pointed this out on page 8 or so, but he was quickly shat upon, per the obligatory Blowhard code of conduct).

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I see no evidence of this claim. This is what I was refuting from the beginning. I see nothing on the back that couldn't be achieved through just humidity/moisture and your finger.

Also, the expected variance for minor blemishes to appear and/or disappear from one scan to the next, let alone from one scanner to the next, is *much* wider than many people realize. I have thousands of duplicate scans of cards taken from different scanners and/or different settings at different times of the same cards that I could post and people would swear they were recolored or damaged, yet nothing was done to them.

Also, some blemishes simply disappear when a card is soaked in water. And contrary to what many claim/wish to be true, this practice is still allowed.

This reminds me of the 52 Mantle that started all these BODA threads a few years back. Nearly everyone on Blowout, page after page after page, were launching their disdain over the "trimmed" 52 Mantle. Each one pointing out which edges had so clearly been cut up. Yet, the card itself had not been trimmed at all. Not even by the width of a human hair. The card had simply been soaked in water and seemingly no one was capable of making this observation (I think there was eventually one guy who pointed this out on page 8 or so, but he was quickly shat upon, per the obligatory Blowhard code of conduct).

I don't care about your card doctor simp schtick. Gary Moser used moisture and his finger to achieve the changes outside the armband. Fine.