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A lot of these questions and complaints have been answered many times in other threads, but here goes: Location Issues 1. Square footage is the easiest problem to quantify, there are very few venues that can provide the space needed. 2. Time Frame - You'd be surprised hoe many venues will not book years in advance which the National absolutely has to be able to do. I have heard in the past that this is the problem with Vegas 3. Democracy - If you let the current dealers vote it's going to stay where the current dealers are happiest As a side note I didn't vote for Chicago.
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IMO, the Nat'l should rotate venues across the country- west coast, east coast, mid-west, etc. Would keep it fresh, exciting, etc. Just my 2 cents.
Jewish-collector- Good list BTW...Would be cool to see some of them get a shot... McCormick Place Las Vegas Convention Center Orange County Convention Center Georgia World Congress Center New Orleans Convention Center World Equestrian Center International Exposition Center (I-X Center) Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Pennsylvania Convention Center Sands Expo and Convention Center Mandalay Bay Convention Center George R. Brown Convention Center Jacob K. Javits Convention Center Donald E. Stephens Convention Center Huntington Place Moscone Convention Center San Diego Convention Center Last edited by MVSNYC; 09-18-2023 at 07:47 PM. |
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Chicago again?
Screwed once more. |
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Thanks to Mr. Wiki, here is a list of US convention centers that have at least 500,000 square feet of exhibition space.
The first number for each convention center below is the total exhibition space in square footage, while the second number is its overall square footage. Note that Atlantic City is at the bottom of the list with exactly 500,000 square feet of exhibition space...that's where I drew a line in the convention sand. I do not have the contiguous square footage for each place, but if Atlantic City is currently in the mix, then the National organizers are obviously willing to accept under 600,000 sq. ft. of contiguous space. McCormick Place Chicago 2,670,000 sq ft /9,000,000 sq ft Las Vegas Convention Center Las Vegas 2,500,000 sq ft /4,600,000 sq ft Orange County Convention Center Orlando 2,100,000 sq ft/ 7,000,000 sq ft Georgia World Congress Center Atlanta 1,500,000 sq ft/ 3,900,000 sq ft New Orleans Morial Convention Center New Orleans 1,100,000 sq ft/ 3,100,000 sq ft World Equestrian Center Ocala, Florida 1,026,500 sq ft /1,036,100 sq ft International Exposition Center (I-X Center) Cleveland 1,000,000 sq ft/ 2,200,000 sq ft Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas 1,000,000 sq ft/ 2,000,000 sq ft Pennsylvania Convention Center Philadelphia 1,000,000 sq ft /2,000,000 sq ft Sands Expo and Convention Center Las Vegas 936,600 sq ft/2,250,000 sq ft Mandalay Bay Convention Center Las Vegas 861,231 sq ft /2,100,000 sq ft George R. Brown Convention Center Houston 853,000 sq ft/1,800,000 sq ft Jacob K. Javits Convention Center New York City 850,000 sq ft/ 3,300,000 sq ft Donald E. Stephens Convention Center Rosemont, Illinois 840,000 sq ft /1,000,000 sq ft Anaheim Convention Center Anaheim 815,000 sq ft /1,600,000 sq ft Cleveland Convention Center and Global Center for Health Innovation Cleveland 767,000 sq ft/1,002,000 sq ft Georgia National Fairgrounds and Agricenter Perry, Georgia 738,204 sq ft/781,831 sq ft Huntington Place Detroit 723,500 sq ft /2,400,000 sq ft Los Angeles Convention Center Los Angeles 720,000 sq ft /867,000 sq ft NRG Center Houston 706,000 sq ft/1,400,000 sq ft Walter E. Washington Convention Center Washington, D.C. 703,000 sq ft/2,300,000 sq ft Moscone Convention Center San Francisco 700,000 sq ft/2,000,000 sq ft San Diego Convention Center San Diego 615,700 sq ft/2,600,000 sq ft Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex and Expo Center Harrisburg, PA 593,872 sq ft/634,507 sq ft Colorado Convention Center Denver 584,000 sq ft/2,200,000 sq ft Indiana Convention Center Indianapolis 566,600 sq ft /1,300,000 sq ft America's Center St. Louis 523,000 sq ft /2,700,000 sq ft Boston Convention and Exhibition Center Boston 516,000 sq ft/ 976,000 sq ft Salt Palace Convention Center Salt Lake City 515,000 sq ft/ 679,000 sq ft Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center San Antonio 514,000 sq ft/1,500,000 sq ft Miami Beach Convention Center Miami Beach 502,000 sq ft/ 1,000,000 sq ft Atlantic City Convention Center Atlantic City, New Jersey 500,000 sq ft /1,000,000 sq ft Brian (you can thank me later for removing square meter amounts) |
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Rosemont is a great locations for the National why not make it there every two years with Cleveland...... so two years Chicago one year Cleveland. I bet that’s they do. The gray breads hate change they love routine and commonplace that’s comforting and has a past experience with.
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It's needs to be minimum of 600,000 contiguous square feet.
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Considering all the dealers on the waiting list to get into the NSCC, I'm surprised that some very enterprising sports show promoter (hello Joe D.?) hasn't decided to have a go at establishing an annual "Winter NSCC." IMO, January or February would be a good time of the year. How about Las Vegas, New Orleans, or San Diego for a location. One major benefit for dealers and collectors would be not having to suffer inadequate air conditioning!! I truly feel that a Winter NSCC would quickly become a huge success.
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Brian Last edited by brianp-beme; 09-19-2023 at 05:43 PM. |
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YOU JUST CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY. IF CHICAGO GETS THEIR A/C WORKING WELL AGAIN, THAT IS A GOOD CENTRAL LOCATION. LET'S FACE IT, THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR A/C WORKING, LEST THEY DISGRACE THEMSELVES AND BE ELIMINATED AS A CONVENTION SITE FOR ANY AND ALL TYPES OF EVENTS. --- Brian Powell |
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