Cards still being outed on Blowout -- PSA 9 Monte Irvin in the recent ML

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Wut? Or perhaps, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Sarcasm perhaps?

Maybe?

Setting aside the morals and just putting my economist hat on, it seems like the natural progression. If it’s really easy to do, requires little skill, training, or capital, with an army of drones to take up the work, and you can make tens of thousands of dollars on each card, then organized crime would seem like the perfect fit. Those groups are certainly interested in making a quick buck, and it’s hard to imagine their code of honor would frown on such an enterprise.

And yet it doesn’t happen, or hasn’t yet.

Perhaps for one of the reasons that I speculated above. Perhaps for others.

I’m certainly inclined to guess that a big reason is that it’s not as easy as it might seem to us. Travis has suggested as much, and I have no reason to doubt he’s wrong.

[Peter_Spaeth]

You know best. i must be wrong about the extent of it, you've convinced me. I'll just have to discard everything I've learned and heard from all my sources for decades now, damn. Not. PS you seem to be trying to convince yourself that most of your high grade cards are OK. If you feel safe, great.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You know best. i must be wrong about the extent of it, you've convinced me. Not. PS you seem to be trying to convince yourself, good luck with that.

I’m really not sure what I believe. Just trying to make a little sense of it through the economic lens. Haven’t quite been able to square the circle just yet. And maybe we never will.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

I’m really not sure what I believe. Just trying to make a little sense of it through the economic lens. Haven’t quite been able to square the circle just yet. And maybe we never will.

Do what suits you, I know what I know, facts are facts. Even if it were hard, and most of it isn't, think how many cards even a single person could alter if that was his sole occupation for, say, three decades. You do the math, then multiply it by all the card doctors out there, and then add in all the ones doing routine stuff. It adds up.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do what suits you, I know what I know, facts are facts.

Cool cool.

I’m just trying to better understand the facts.

I promise I still despise the concept of card doctors, and I sincerely hope nothing in my collection is doctored.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I hope so too.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I hope so too.

Sadly, given the fact that much of my collection is high grade postwar, it sounds like the odds are good that some or even most of what I have should be under suspicion, even if it’s not on any lists (yet).

I think that sort of a dawning realization is less than fun to consider. I’m probably still halfway in the denial phase and halfway in the bargaining phase of the grief process.

[raulus]

My first double post. I guess I’m a member of the club now.

[Beercan collector]

I’m to the point where I think I’d enjoy viewing a complete PSA 6 1953 set With all the touched corners , rough cuts and fuzzy borders than looking a chopped up PSA 8-9 set

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

I’m to the point where I think I’d enjoy viewing a complete PSA 6 1953 set With all the touched corners , rough cuts and fuzzy borders than looking a chopped up PSA 8-9 set

I don't collect sets, but this is basically where I landed as well some time ago.