The future of Shohei Ohtani

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

You are right Peter. With his batting average he is.

But the game has changed now where batting average is the outlier andpower numbers is what it about.

except for the special players like Acuna, Othani, Judge etc most players that put up 25 plus homers have high high strike outs and low averages.

But Alonso is hitting the homers over 40, hitting in RBI's over 100 and not many are near those number in the league and Alonso is been consistent with those types of numbers.

He is not a super star like some others and not putting up Olson, freeman numbers etc but he would be very very hard to replace his consistency and his production

For example
Most homers since 2018 190. 4th in all of MLB
Most RBI's since 2018 485. 11th in all of MLB.
most Runs since 2018 392. #31 in all of mlb

not bad for someone who is not hitting for average

As Alonso's Rookie season was 2019, if you look at numbers since when he was a Rookie, they are even more impressive:

#1 in Home Runs with 190 (2nd best is Olson with 174)
#1 in RBIs (666 to Olson's 650)
#9 in Slugging
#14 in OPS
#14 in Runs

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

As Alonso's Rookie season was 2019, if you look at numbers since when he was a Rookie, they are even more impressive:

#1 in Home Runs with 190 (2nd best is Olson with 174)
#1 in RBIs (666 to Olson's 650)
#9 in Slugging
#14 in OPS
#14 in Runs

wow, Dumb of me. But I was using 2018 because of many of the other top hitters.
But wow that is even more amazing.
I can deal with a lower batting average(still would prefer near .250) but with that consistency and production the Mets would be insane to lose him. Hard to replace those types of numbers

[D. Bergin]

So far, Alonso's strongest suit is his availability. Hasn't missed many games at all in his career.

That's worth a lot of money to any team right there...as long as he generally keeps up what he is doing offensively.

I'd like to see him cut down on the strikeouts and up the walks a bit...but I don't see a lot of players improving in those categories once they reach their late 20's.

They are what they are at this point, and that hole in their swings usually just gets bigger as they age.

Apparently he's a much better 1st baseman then Dunn, because it's stunning how much his defense kills Dunn's WAR numbers, looking at his baseball reference page.

I never saw Dunn play 1st base, but I saw Jason Giambi play 1st base for years...and Dunn's defensive metrics make Giambi look like a Don Mattingly or Keith Hernandez in comparison....and Giambi was a baaaaaad 1st baseman. Maybe he just looked awful to me after years of being spoiled by Don Mattingly and Tino Martinez...but he's the one who made me think that a good 1st baseman in under-rated in both defensive metrics and fans always claiming the worst fielders get put there because it's such an easy position....which I call bullshit on.

I grew up playing baseball, and the only two positions that scared me to play were catcher and 1st baseman. Maybe because I was a little kid, but I wanted no part of either one.

[BobbyStrawberry]

I'm glad someone mentioned Matt Olson. He is putting up unreal numbers this year:

.281/.388/.619 with 51 HR, 116 R, 128 RBI

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I'm glad someone mentioned Matt Olson. He is putting up unreal numbers this year:

.281/.388/.619 with 51 HR, 116 R, 128 RBI

Acuna, Freeman, Betts and Olson are all having sensational seasons.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Acuna, Freeman, Betts and Olson are all having sensational seasons.

Agreed! Mookie got off to a slow start (for him) but has been fantastic. He and his infield eligibility have been carrying my fantasy team down the stretch

[Peter_Spaeth]

His minor league cards show him as a second baseman. Trivia -- what HOF outfielder's RC shows him as a second baseman?