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Old 09-09-2023, 07:34 PM
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Thanks. John! I guess I'm probably OK then.
I still think its fundamentally problematic for PSA to be passing on their competitor's slabs.... I am concerned about Peter's experience where his Beckett card was "rejected on the ground that it was "not a trading card.'" That seems like more that merely "verifying that the holder has not been tamper with."

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Old 09-09-2023, 07:59 PM
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Thanks. John! I guess I'm probably OK then.
I still think its fundamentally problematic for PSA to be passing on their competitor's slabs.... I am concerned about Peter's experience where his Beckett card was "rejected on the ground that it was "not a trading card.'" That seems like more that merely "verifying that the holder has not been tamper with."
I guess I'd need to know more about that, but it seems like an edge case, something that would rarely happen.
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Old 09-14-2023, 03:38 PM
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I guess I was justifiably concerned based on what happened to Peter
Here is what eBay sent me notifying me that the SGC graded item I sold "could not be authenticated" (by PSA) and was therefore mis-categorized in my listing.


"We wanted to let you know that your item is on the way to your buyer, but unfortunately we can’t provide our Authenticity Guarantee. The item was miscategorized in your listing and is therefore ineligible.
This may be disappointing for your buyer, so if you have similar listings, we recommend you update the item details to ensure this doesn’t happen again. In the meantime, we’ll notify them to let them know their order is on the way."




https://www.ebay.com/itm/204455457982

If I'm fortunate the buyer will still want it at the agreed-upon price.... I'm a bit cynical so I doubt it....

My takeaway from this is that PSA won't grade/authenticate this item so the SGC authentication is invalid for purposes of eBay. Personally I don't think that these necessarily "cards" -- they are booklet pages -- but SGC is entitled to slab and authenticate whatever they think is kosher. I won this with some others like it in an auction iast year from REA .
The one I really wanted was a Buck Leonard that was also graded/authenticated by SGC. I
I guess I'll call eBay although I assume it will be a very frustrating experience. and not fruitful...

My solution is that ebay should have SGC verify and authenticate its own slabs.... That's in everyone's best interests anyway. If SGC thinks its holder was no tampered with then they should be the one to say so.

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Ah, you should be able to sell a slabbed album page in a different sports memorabilia section of eBay, since it's not a trading card. Then it wouldn't go through eBay authentication.
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Old 09-14-2023, 06:52 PM
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i guess but by slabbing it isn't SGC is saying its a "card" ? And is it PSA's place to say otherwise when its in an SGC slab? Doesn't this exceed PSA's task of making sure the holder hasn't been breached.

PSA and SGC grade items that are not cards in the obvious sense (those beautiful 1910's notebook covers come to mind)
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7150-10449.s

If I do wind up relisting this I'll do what you suggest (or I can put it in "a lot" of these) so I avoid the authentication issue.
The latter idea of creating a lot seems sensible (but maybe sneaky). I bought this in a lot and I have several other lesser players I would be happy to part with..
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