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Old 09-09-2023, 03:02 PM
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Here's a pretty embarrassing one. Mistaking a $100 card for a $2.5 million card.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1567550

Then there's the time they mislabeled N43 large format Ginters as N28s.

Or the time they graded 1980's Mickey Mantle pins as 1969 MLBPA when he wasn't even in the original set.

Or the time that they graded cards with pinholes as PSA 7s.

Or the time...
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Old 09-10-2023, 10:53 AM
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If fixed, this mistake goes from a pop 101 to a pop 3...tough to understand how this got missed.
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Old 09-10-2023, 11:22 AM
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If fixed, this mistake goes from a pop 101 to a pop 3...tough to understand how this got missed.
That is inexcusable.
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Old 09-10-2023, 01:14 PM
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Happens all the time.
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This happens too often with Venezuelan Topps cards. Usually labeling US issues as Venezuelan. Here's one example, there's a few in this thread: https://twitter.com/VenezuelaTopps/s...58004602798081
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Old 09-10-2023, 01:26 PM
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This happens too often with Venezuelan Topps cards. Usually labeling US issues as Venezuelan. Here's one example, there's a few in this thread: https://twitter.com/VenezuelaTopps/s...58004602798081
There were like 10 consecutive 1990 Topps Frank Thomas cards graded as Tiffany.


1990 Topps - [Base] #414.1 - Frank Thomas [PSA 8 NM‑MT]
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1990 Topps - [Base] #414.1 - Frank Thomas [PSA 8 NM‑MT]
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But in all seriousness, this is quite disturbing.
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Happens all the time.
Based on my collection, it is a rare occurrence to have PSA mis-identify a card.

I also have a 1970 OPC Munson RC graded by SGC that has been improperly identified as a Topps card. IMO, far easier to mistake the 70 OPC for a 70 Topps card, than to mistake a 74 OPC card for a 74 Topps card based on the backs.

Out of the 8500 +/- pre-80 PSA cards in my collection, the Crowley is the only mis-identified PSA card via the flip. I have only 150-175 SGC cards in my collection. So having 1 out of 175 misidentified is a significantly higher percent than 1 of 8500.

On my end, it is more common to have the database versus the flip be incorrect.

I have 2 PSA cards that have the correct flip, but PSA has categorized the card incorrectly in their database which loosely translates to I am not able to add these cards to their respective registry. One of these cards is currently at PSA to have their database fixed so that it matches the flip and I can add the card to my registry. The 77 Hostess Lynn's flip is correct, but the database identified the card as a 77 Hostess Twinkies, which it is not. PSA has removed the current cert # and have yet to assign a new cert #.
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Old 09-13-2023, 10:51 AM
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Out of the 8500 +/- pre-80 PSA cards in my collection, the Crowley is the only mis-identified PSA card via the flip.
Then I would say you're the exception. I have personally viewed hundreds to thousands of PSA "mechanical errors" while browsing message boards the last 10 years or cards for sale on eBay or COMC. Some are more innocent, some are absolutely ridiculous.

The search "mechanical error" on Google for Blowout, Net54, and Collectors.com (PSA message board) gives like 800 total threads.

Back when I submitted to PSA, I probably received 20 mechanical errors myself in the 300 or so cards I submitted. But then, I'm normally an oddball collector. Then I probably sent in 5-10 more cards that I purchased that had mechanical errors.
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Then I would say you're the exception. I have personally viewed hundreds to thousands of PSA "mechanical errors" while browsing message boards the last 10 years or cards for sale on eBay or COMC. Some are more innocent, some are absolutely ridiculous.

The search "mechanical error" on Google for Blowout, Net54, and Collectors.com (PSA message board) gives like 800 total threads.

Back when I submitted to PSA, I probably received 20 mechanical errors myself in the 300 or so cards I submitted. But then, I'm normally an oddball collector. Then I probably sent in 5-10 more cards that I purchased that had mechanical errors.
Based on the high numbers of mechanical errors you have observed while reading threads, it seems that you may be the exception based on your own personal submission experiences.

Let's say that with each of the 800 threads you mention from your google search on this topic there are an average of 5 mech errors mentioned in each thread. This would mean that 4000 mech errors have been publicly outed via threads....this aligns with the 100s to 1000s you mention having viewed across various boards over the past 10 years.

According to PSA's site, for ONLY baseball, basketball and football cards, PSA has graded just shy of 42 million cards. So, quick math tells us that 0.0095% of these cards have had mech errors, based on posts you have observed. In my collection, 0.0118% of my PSA cards have mech errors by comparison.

Your percent, based on your submissions of odd -ball items, is 6.7%.

Again, seems you may be the exception.
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