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Old 09-03-2023, 12:29 AM
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I think the question might be better phrased as “Is Elly De La Cruz a bust if you put a ton of money into his cards based on his Sportscenter highlights during the first month or so of his career?”




As everyone else has mentioned so far, it’s way to early to say if he’s anything at this point, but the strikeouts are damn alarming, if you bought into him at the height of the hype.

I think he’s certainly more promising than O’Neil Cruz, in case anybody is asking.

It’s also good to remind yourself that somebody like Aaron Judge was still playing college and low A ball at the same age…..and wasn’t even dominating at those levels yet.
Very thoughtful responses. I watched him play on TV and I thought that he has some amazing highlight reel moments. Reminds me of the feeling I had watching Tim Tebow with the Broncos. Fun to watch, but probably needs a lot of refinement on the fundamentals to be an infielder and a top-of-the-order hitter.

But you're right in that my questioning whether he is a bust was after I started checking out how his paper is trading on eBay.

Just yesterday, his "2022 Bowman Sterling ELLY DE LA CRUZ Auto Blue /25 PSA 10" sold for $4,760. You can buy a decent looking 1954 Hank Aaron for that price.

This is one of those cases where the price of his cards relative to his performance has led me to the perhaps unfair assertion that he might be a bust.

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I wouldn't say he's a bust. He has very raw skills, and could be something special if he grows into them. He's shown flashes, of his potential at times.

He obviously has a lot to work on, but this is the time to work on it, at 21.
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I predict he either will or will not be a great player.
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I predict he either will or will not be a great player.
Could be right on that account.

Which do a poll to see how many people agree with your point of view
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Could be right on that account.

Which do a poll to see how many people agree with your point of view
It's about all you can say at this point in any major prospect's career. Obviously he has the talent, but it takes awhile to figure out if he has the plate discipline, the knowledge of the strike zone, the ability and good fortune to stay healthy, the patience to ride out the inevitable slumps, and above all else, the ability to consistently hit the breaking ball.

This sport is so much harder than other ones where it's much easier to predict success.
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It's about all you can say at this point in any major prospect's career. Obviously he has the talent, but it takes awhile to figure out if he has the plate discipline, the knowledge of the strike zone, the ability and good fortune to stay healthy, the patience to ride out the inevitable slumps, and above all else, the ability to consistently hit the breaking ball.

This sport is so much harder than other ones where it's much easier to predict success.
Personally, how you describe the growth curve, I don't think Cincinnati is a great spot for growth... and I'm a Reds fan. It's not NYY, but the front office does everything it can to rock the boat - chi, Feng Shue, etc etc - of every single player that they possess. On a hot streak? it's time to sit because a computer tells me that. Third baseman? time to play shortstop, second, leftfield, centerfield.... ROY? It's time to trade you.

It's a wonder to me that Joey Votto was able to succeed like he did when we've seen the disintegration of Reds' 5-tool and 4-tool prospects the last 5 years. This year the Reds ran everyone into the ground (tired) refusing to supplement at the trade deadline. I think Elly will succeed, but it'll be a fight every day.

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Hes a bust if you pay pwcc prices for called super refractors,,good luck with that mindset
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