T210 Series 8 Mystery player

[nolemmings]

It may be Louis Bauer, with last name misspelled, even though he already has a card in the series. Seems unlikely to be Cy Bowen, who was 39 years old in 1910 and pitching in the Central League, having just been in the NY State League since 1903. It also could be Andy Bowen, though, as there were players appearing in more than 1 league/series.

[bnorth]

Make sure to post about the auction when live or even better if possible PM me so I don't miss it. I still need 3 or 4 to finish my T210 collection.

[JollyElm]

This is only pseudo-science at best (if at all), but here goes...

• I drew the yellow box on the right from where the black of the image ends to where the black text ends (this allows us to ignore the offset of the black printing over the red) under the assumption that they were on the same black printing plate, with the further assumption (I know nothing about this set) that the design layout had the text centered (and thus centered with regards to the black image).

• Next, I took the same yellow box and moved it to connect with the 'beginning' of the black image on the left. The end result is there is a decent amount of empty room between the yellow box and the start of the name "OWER," which there 'shouldn't' be.

Conclusion: If this card indeed had its name centered in the layout/design, then there is a missing letter that preceded "OWER" which has been lost to time.

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[FrankWakefield]

Until someone gets more info, I lean towards Louis Bower. But it's just a lean...

It brings to mind how the white border tobacco cards had Roy Ellam with Nashville in 1910, even though he wasn't with the Nashville Vols until 1917.

If i meet a "nineteen teens" time traveler person arrives in our time, I'll ask him about Ellam, first. Then, maybe Bower. And, also about the Black Sox (and Attell and Rothstein), Dutch Leonard, Charlie Faust, Hal Chase, Hub Perdue, and Bull Durham. Might ask about Bowen/Bower if his travelling time allows.

[rhettyeakley]

Nothing to substantiate but there was a player named Clarence “Buck” FLOWERS played throughout the south from 1906 to 1914. He is in the Series 5 set with Greenville and is right handed as well.


Could be a “FLOWER” that got trimmed to “.OWER”

Interesting thread.

[Steve D]

In the Mar 10, 1910 Birmingham Post-Herald, there is a mention of a pitcher named "Lower".

The manager "Molesworth" of the Birmingham Barons, had evidently picked him up from Cincinnati. He had been drafted by Clark Griffith, out of Omaha.

In 1909, he won 20 games, in 32 starts.

Here's his Baseball-reference.com page:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=lower-001joh

Further, in the Jun 7, 1910 Birmingham Post-Herald, there is a story and box score for a game between Birmingham and Chattanooga. Lower started the game for Birmingham. It looks like he only pitched 1/3 of an inning. Chattanooga scored 6 runs in the first inning, and won 7-5

Steve

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Steve D

In the Mar 10, 1910 Birmingham Post-Herald, there is a mention of a pitcher named "Lower".

The manager "Molesworth" of the Birmingham Barons, had evidently picked him up from Cincinnati. He had been drafted by Clark Griffith, out of Omaha.

In 1909, he won 20 games, in 32 starts.

Here's his Baseball-reference.com page:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=lower-001joh

Steve

This seems like the most likely of the possibilities imo.

The thing that looks like a period before the name could be the right-most portion of an “L” that got partially covered when printed (or something like that)

[Steve D]

John Lower, 26 years of age, is also listed in the 1910 US Federal Census, taken Apr 26, 1910, living in Birmingham, AL. His occupation is listed as "base ball player".

Steve

[edjs]

I also noticed this card has a period after the name, the others have a comma.