Super high end Mantle cards

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Yogi won 1O WS. I can't remember the last thread on the board discussing his cards.

Yogi was not an elite home run hitter or even hitter. He won with teams that first had DiMaggio, then Mantle. To people very sophisticated in baseball, he may have been even more valuable (see Casey Stengel's famous remark) but not to the world in general.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Yogi won 1O WS. I can't remember the last thread on the board discussing his cards.

I mentioned Mantle's championships only in relation to his hobby status over Mays. I didn't suggest that everyone who's ever won a championship is better than someone who didn't, or better than someone who won less than they did.

I would say the same thing about Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams though. Joe D was a winner. Ted was not. If you ask me, that's why Joe D is the more popular player in the hobby. It doesn't make him "better" but I think it certainly makes him more popular and helps keep his cards at the elite level they are.

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

Mantle himself couldn't understand why.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As Paul Simon sang, every generation throws a hero up the pop charts. That hero, indisputably, was Mantle. Who by the way was Simon's inspiration for the great verse from Mrs. Robinson, but DiMaggio worked better musically.

[gonefishin]

Although is, and always has been, my favorite player. The 2 best hitters to ever play the game were Pete Rose and Ted Williams. I will state that neither have ever appealed to me in the collecting world.

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As Paul Simon sang, every generation throws a hero up the pop charts. That hero, indisputably, was Mantle. Who by the way was Simon's inspiration for the great verse from Mrs. Robinson, but DiMaggio worked better musically.

Thank you, Peter, for that nice little nugget of information. I did not know Paul Simon had been inspired to use Mickey Mantle for the renown stanza / verse from Mrs. Robinson. Ten years ago or so, I was musing about the song, and replaced DiMag with Mantle. As I remember, it went something like this:

Where have you gone, Mickey Mantle?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you,
woo woo woo.
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
The Mighty Mick has left and gone away
Oy Vey,
Oh woe.

Paul Simon made his choice, and it worked. However, I still wish I could have gone back in time, to try to convince him....

It's all good, Peter. Thanks again for sharing the story. Wishing you the best.

--- Brian Powell

[Peter_Spaeth]

The songwriter's favorite Yankee was actually Mickey Mantle, and according to Wikipedia, when Dick Cavett asked why Mantle's name wasn't used instead of DiMaggio, Simon replied "It's about syllables, Dick. It's about how many beats there are."

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The songwriter's favorite Yankee was actually Mickey Mantle, and according to Wikipedia, when Dick Cavett asked why Mantle's name wasn't used instead of DiMaggio, Simon replied "It's about syllables, Dick. It's about how many beats there are."

Fun.

I always figured it was more a function of Italian Renaissance Men like DiMaggio working better under the auspices of the liberal arts.