Mantle vs. Clemente

[Scocs]

Isn’t the Mantle card technically “worth” more money in a PSA holder anyway? Why crossover to SGC? Just to get rid of the MC on the label? Anyone can see it’s miscut….

[swarmee]

Does the card measure up? Just because it got into a PSA slab doesn't mean it's the right size for the issue. That would be a reason why the card wouldn't get a number grade from SGC.

Was it pressed in a non-recessed brick holder at some point?

Does it show some other sign of alteration?

[cgjackson222]

So there is no explanation of why a card doesn't get a numerical grade from SGC unless you choose to have your card slabbed Authentic? That's too bad.

I know that SGC now does show why cards grade Authentic on their slabs--e.g. trimming, not minimum size, etc.

[bbcard1]

I don't know why some of you guys keep doing this to yourselves. I can kind of understand the guys on Facebook who just don't know whether something is real or a reprint, but an experienced collector should know they are real and they aren't going to get a good grade. The Clemente should grade higher than the Mantle though. Its corners are better and it is only off center one way while the Mantle is off center on two margins.

[Steve D]

One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that the grade on the Mantle: 1.5(mc), actually makes it a -.5, since the qualifier knocks the grade down two points.

On a more serious note, one other thing I noticed is that the Mantle has a very slight color shift between the skin tones and the black border around his arm and face, and also on his cap. The Clemente on the other hand, looks well-focused.

Steve

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Steve D

One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that the grade on the Mantle: 1.5(mc), actually makes it a -.5, since the qualifier knocks the grade down two points.

Actually, if you read the Set Registry rules, despite the qualifier, a FAIR card (1.5) with a qualifier DOES NOT lose any registry points, so it is actually worth more than a PSA 2(Q) which does lose 1 point.

Bonus Points and Deductions
Some sets may have bonus points assigned to certain items within a set.

Additionally, the following point deductions are taken for Qualifiers. For example, if your card or ticket is graded PSA 9Q, the grade calculation in the Registry will be 7.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q & 1.5Q = no deduction

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/rules

[FrankWakefield]

"every form of human stupid" +1 !!!!!! Well said.

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Actually, if you read the Set Registry rules, despite the qualifier, a FAIR card (1.5) with a qualifier DOES NOT lose any registry points, so it is actually worth more than a PSA 2(Q) which does lose 1 point.


https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/rules

I didn't realize that.....Thank you!

Steve