Mantle vs. Clemente

[raulus]

Show us the backs, please.

[perezfan]

Don't try to apply reason. It just illustrates the random nature of third party grading. You are completely at the whim of which grader reviews it, and their frame of mind that day.

Maybe the Mantle grader had hemorrhoids or failed to perform sexually that morning. Maybe the Clemente grader made all of the green lights on his way to work and got the best parking spot in the SGC lot.

The more you try to apply reason, the more frustrated you'll become. Bottom line... the 3rd party concept is flawed and was created to benefit them (not you).

[FrankWakefield]

+1 for what Adam said; and +1 for what Jay said.

I suspect that Adam grew up in a city, near concrete. From rural America, I offer some barnyard wisdom... "It's like trying to teach a pig to sing; it's a waste of time and it annoys hell outa the pig."

[The Detroit Collector]

My guess would be even though the cards are severely off center, the white borders they do have are SO thick, much thicker than an actual border, which compensates for some of the missing border. The thick borders put the card back into the needed HxW dimensions which would allow it a numerical grade rather than authentic.

Again, just my guess.

[glynparson]

Are you positive the edge near the label has a factory cut? It looks a little odd If sgc felt it wasn’t a full factory cut card and PSA didn’t feel the same way it would explain everything logically

[Scocs]

Isn’t the Mantle card technically “worth” more money in a PSA holder anyway? Why crossover to SGC? Just to get rid of the MC on the label? Anyone can see it’s miscut….

[swarmee]

Does the card measure up? Just because it got into a PSA slab doesn't mean it's the right size for the issue. That would be a reason why the card wouldn't get a number grade from SGC.

Was it pressed in a non-recessed brick holder at some point?

Does it show some other sign of alteration?

[cgjackson222]

So there is no explanation of why a card doesn't get a numerical grade from SGC unless you choose to have your card slabbed Authentic? That's too bad.

I know that SGC now does show why cards grade Authentic on their slabs--e.g. trimming, not minimum size, etc.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

+1 for what Adam said; and +1 for what Jay said.

I suspect that Adam grew up in a city, near concrete. From rural America, I offer some barnyard wisdom... "It's like trying to teach a pig to sing; it's a waste of time and it annoys hell outa the pig."

I did but I also lived every summer until I was 12 at an area country enough that our house still went by a rural route address because there was no 911 system in the area, but no farm animals. I have tried to reason with every form of human stupid, though, over 33 years of law practice, which is why I know trying to read a meaning into PSA's decisions is an exercise in futility.