Super high end Mantle cards

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

There was one Elvis Presley, one Steve McQueen, one Ronald Reagon, and by the grace of God - one Mickey Mantle!

Well, Elvis memorabilia hasn't appreciated much in value. There is greatly reduced demand for his stuff these days. Don't believe Ronald Reagan stuff is hot exactly hit sh*t either.

I've lived in the NYC area my whole life. Not a Yankee fan, but have no problem with people buying every Mantle card they want for every dollar they want to spend. Just seems to me that even taking account all the great things people have listed above, I have a hard time understanding why his cards outsell any other player of the 60s by multiples.

[gonefishin]

No, but sometimes it's just not about the money. I'm fortunate enough to have been alive at the same time they were. They all have one thing in common - movies!

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I have a hard time understanding why his cards outsell any other player of the 60s by multiples.

I was 6 in 1960 when I became a baseball fan. I lived in NW Louisiana. I saw MLB games once a week on Saturday. What team was shown much more than any other team? The NY Yankees. It seems they were on almost every week. I became a Yankee fan and have stayed one ever since. I'm sure there are many more people like me who have never lived in NY and became Yankee fans because they were on TV so much and because they were so good. If Mays had been on TV and been visible to so many people as much as Mantle, maybe he would be as popular (although we all know that skin color would have to be factored in). The same could be said for Aaron. Even though their career stats are better than Mantle's, they were not as visible to the entire American public to the extent that Mantle was.

In regards to Mantle's 1952 Topps card, I have to agree with you. Although I have many, many different Mantle items, I do not have his '52 Topps card. Why? Because I've always thought it was over priced. I have been waiting since 1986, when I got back into cards, for the price to drop to be more in line with where I thought it should be. It never has. And now I feel it never will.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

I was 6 in 1960 when I became a baseball fan. I lived in NW Louisiana. I saw MLB games once a week on Saturday. What team was shown much more than any other team? The NY Yankees. It seems they were on almost every week. I became a Yankee fan and have stayed one ever since. I'm sure there are many more people like me who have never lived in NY and became Yankee fans because they were on TV so much and because they were so good. If Mays had been on TV and been visible to so many people as much as Mantle, maybe he would be as popular (although we all know that skin color would have to be factored in). The same could be said for Aaron. Even though their career stats are better than Mantle's, they were not as visible to the entire American public to the extent that Mantle was.

In regards to Mantle's 1952 Topps card, I have to agree with you. Although I have many, many different Mantle items, I do not have his '52 Topps card. Why? Because I've always thought it was over priced. I have been waiting since 1986, when I got back into cards, for the price to drop to be more in line with where I thought it should be. It never has. And now I feel it never will.

How much was, say, an EX one in 1986?

[rjackson44]

Mantle is mantle

[JollyElm]

To understand the (continuing) Mantle phenomenon is simple. Don't get bogged down in looking at Mickey Mantle as a great player, look at him (more precisely, his cards) like the vast majority of collectors do, as straightforward wealth building assets.

• With regards to nostalgia, this poll was from over 5 years ago now, and it asked, were you alive when The Mick played? It's interesting to look at:
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=255158

[toppcat]

In August 2020, with a lot of time on my hands (like many of us then) I wrote a series of three lengthy posts on pricing trends of the Mantle and some other cards since 1953. Some of you may find these to be of interest:

https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/202...es-opener.html

https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/202...for-money.html

https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/202...ng-lights.html

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How much was, say, an EX one in 1986?

Unfortunately, I don't remember for sure. Back then I started getting the Post cereal cards first since that's what I collected most as a kid. So the first Mantles I bought were probably $100 or less for the Post Mantles. They were and are typically less than Topps from the same years. I would guess the '52 Topps Mantle would have been maybe $2,000 at most. Maybe someone has a Beckett magazine from back then and can give us a more accurate figure. Local dealers were going by "book" value back then with almost everything priced at NM prices.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by AustinMike

Unfortunately, I don't remember for sure. Back then I started getting the Post cereal cards first since that's what I collected most as a kid. So the first Mantles I bought were probably $100 or less for the Post Mantles. They were and are typically less than Topps from the same years. I would guess the '52 Topps Mantle would have been maybe $2,000 at most. Maybe someone has a Beckett magazine from back then and can give us a more accurate figure. Local dealers were going by "book" value back then with almost everything priced at NM prices.

Here's the 1986 Beckett book prices on the 52 Mantle.

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[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Here's the 1986 Beckett book prices on the 52 Mantle.

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Obviously a big difference between Mays and Mantle which isn't surprising since Mantle is a high number (even if it is a double print). What is interesting to see is that Mays is listed for more than Jackie. Is that still true now?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Obviously a big difference between Mays and Mantle which isn't surprising since Mantle is a high number (even if it is a double print). What is interesting to see is that Mays is listed for more than Jackie. Is that still true now?

Took a quick stroll through some PSA sales data. Felt lazy so didn’t look at much, just PSA 5 for the last ~18 months. There’s a pretty wide range of prices, but they’re pretty comparable between Mays and Jackie. Some outliers that might push you one way or another, but right around $15k, give or take, for each of them.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Obviously a big difference between Mays and Mantle which isn't surprising since Mantle is a high number (even if it is a double print). What is interesting to see is that Mays is listed for more than Jackie. Is that still true now?

What about Campy selling for more then both Mays AND Jackie?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How much was, say, an EX one in 1986?

Mint ones were 3000-3500.

[Rhotchkiss]

I dont own any Mantle cards, but I think he is very cool. If I collected post war cards, I would collect Mantle above all other players (except maybe Robinson).

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How much was, say, an EX one in 1986?

I just bought an old baseball card book, "The Great American Baseball Card Flipping, Trading and Bubble Gum Book". Included were Becket Price guides from 1982 & 1983. here's the prices then:

1982: $700 MINT, $350 VG-EX $120 F-G
1983: $1000 VG, $1550 Mint


I can tell you how much it was in 1975. $75 Doll Hairs. I bought one from a well know dealer...that never came. He sent me 3 cards and a $25 credit memo.

https://youtu.be/GR4_i3uphh8?si=nOFbnLJ8dyf9nnxt&t=150

Say it with me Folks and see how easy it rolls off the tounge with the southern drawl...Mickey Mantle. And I'm a Dodger Fan

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I just bought an old baseball card book, "The Great American Baseball Card ...

Say it with me Folks and see how easy it rolls off the lounge with the southern drawl...Mickey Mantle. And I'm a Dodger Fan

Well said, and spot on!

I well remember Boyd and Harris's baseball card book. For what it's worth, my favorite entries concerned Ted Williams (no matter how hard you tried), Tom Tresh (Tommy, baby, maybe they made the pants too long!), Robin Roberts, Rocky Colavito, and perhaps especially.....Whammy Douglas (somebody has GOT to be putting me on). I might be confusing Douglas for somebody else, but cut me some slack---it's been 50 years since I seriously looked at that whimsical book. You may not learn all that much, but you'll be very entertained. --- Brian Powell