Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by MK

If that is from 1937, why couldn’t this Cubs pennant be from 1938? The spine and tassels seem to be very similar. Everyone identifies this Cubs version as 1945, but I’ve always thought it’s 1938.

Last week I commented on a post concerning MK's Cubs pennant; and my belief that it was from the '45 World Series. I still think it looks like it came from that era; however, I've come across some new research that puts that opinion in jeopardy.

MK's Cub's pennant bears a concessionaire's label for Charles Shear, 146 Park Row, New York. Similar pennants, previously discussed last week on this thread from the '37 and '38 World Series, bore the exact same label, down to the address.

Well, the 1940 Manhattan telephone book listed Charles Shear's address as 146 Park Row; however, six years later, the 1946 edition listed him at 150 Park Row. Had MK's Cubs pennant come from the '45 World Series, it's more likely the address on the label would be for 150 Park Row. Instead, it bore the address corresponding with the concessionaire's location in the late 1930s.

So, who knows Mike, it may indeed be from the '38 World Series after all?

[MK]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Last week I commented on a post concerning MK's Cubs pennant; and my belief that it was from the '45 World Series. I still think it looks like it came from that era; however, I've come across some new research that puts that opinion in jeopardy.

MK's Cub's pennant bears a concessionaire's label for Charles Shear, 146 Park Row, New York. Similar pennants, previously discussed last week on this thread from the '37 and '38 World Series, bore the exact same label, down to the address.

Well, the 1940 Manhattan telephone book listed Charles Shear's address as 146 Park Row; however, six years later, the 1946 edition listed him at 150 Park Row. Had MK's Cubs pennant come from the '45 World Series, it's more likely the address on the label would be for 150 Park Row. Instead, it bore the address corresponding with the concessionaire's location in the late 1930s.

So, who knows Mike, it may indeed be from the '38 World Series after all?

As more circumstantial evidence, I give you one of these where someone painted the year 1938 at the end. Granted it could have been done years later, but more than likely it was done shortly after purchase. And yes it has the Shear label with the 146 Park Row address.

[perezfan]

Changing gears a bit...

If the "winning" bidder of this Indians pennant sees this post, start applying for your refund with Heritage ASAP. You just overpaid by $610 for a Mitchell & Ness Repro.

Hope whoever "won it" sees this and gets proper resolution!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...uction-120115#

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Changing gears a bit...

If the "winning" bidder of this Indians pennant sees this post, start applying for your refund with Heritage ASAP. You just overpaid by $610 for a Mitchell & Ness Repro.

Hope whoever "won it" sees this and gets proper resolution!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...uction-120115#

I wonder if HA can wiggle out of it with their description. It is original in the sense that it isn’t a copy of an actual pennant from that time period. It’s a new design. Of course it’s an original circa 1998 pennant, in fact I bought this and others in person from the Mitchell & Ness Philly store that year in their half price Super Bowl Weekend sale. …

[Enoch102]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Changing gears a bit...

If the "winning" bidder of this Indians pennant sees this post, start applying for your refund with Heritage ASAP. You just overpaid by $610 for a Mitchell & Ness Repro.

Hope whoever "won it" sees this and gets proper resolution!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...uction-120115#

Looks like it’s up for auction on ebay. Or someone else is trying to make some money.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38597255913...Bk9SR47No8-_Yg

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Enoch102

Looks like it’s up for auction on ebay. Or someone else is trying to make some money.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38597255913...Bk9SR47No8-_Yg

Yes, it just illustrates how many are out there. This is a different one from the Heritage example, and there are hundreds more that will all sell for under $30.

No offense to the winning bidder in HA (or to those who bid him up), but anyone who can't immediately tell the difference between this and something that's truly vintage probably should find another hobby. Or perhaps they should stick to a spending limit of under $50. Even worse is the fact that Heritage would run with it. Someone there had to know what it is.

[bocca001]

I find it most problematic that Heritage did not know.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I find it most problematic that Heritage did not know.

When it says "Sell with a trusted expert" on their website, you kind of expect them to be an expert.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by MK

As more circumstantial evidence, I give you one of these where someone painted the year 1938 at the end. Granted it could have been done years later, but more than likely it was done shortly after purchase. And yes it has the Shear label with the 146 Park Row address.

That is strange. I will also add that none of my 40’s versions of similar Yankees American League Champions have any labels on the rear like yours has, but do have similar field and design elements. Maybe they kept the Yankees with the “older” logo and went for a newer version with the Cubs? Who knows.

The strange thing is I have Yankees pennants that I believe to be from 1941 to 1943 that are different designs as well.

[Vintagedeputy]

Picked up a couple of vintage pennants. Not in perfect condition but I like the graphics.

[UKCardGuy]

I've always liked that Twins pennant. The graphics are great.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I've always liked that Twins pennant. The graphics are great.

Agreed. This one is well loved but still displays well.

[Fballguy]

Looks like the loser got a taste of his own medicine. Love to see it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33499557403...mis&media=COPY