Best team with no HOFers or HOF caliber players?

[todeen]

Originally Posted by G1911

SS's in the Hall better than Larkin:
Appling
Banks
Boudreau
Cronin
Davis
Jeter
Ripken
Vaughn
Wagner
Yount

SS's in the Hall I'm undecided if are better than Larkin:
Wallace


SS's in the Hall worse than Larkin:
Aparicio
Bancroft
Jackson
Maranville
Reese
Rizzuto
Sewell
Smith (unpopular opinion)
Tinker
Trammell


I have a hard time seeing how Larkin is 1) not a deserving HOF SS, and 2) so ill-deserved that his election is inexplicable. He's better than about 50% of the SS's in. He's certainly better than the bottom 5.

Any reasonable argument here, or just hot take bias?

I assume you are looking at WAR. But I read some years ago that JAWS has Jeter and Larkin neck-and-neck, the difference being .5 pts.

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[G1911]

Originally Posted by todeen

I assume you are looking at WAR. But I read some years ago that JAWS has Jeter and Larkin neck-and-neck, the difference being .5 pts.

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I didn't use WAR, I used my own judgement. WAR and JAWS values the two of them about the same, with a huge gap in bat in favor of Jeter and a huge gap in glove in favor of Larkin.

[packs]

I still think the answer is the 2005 White Sox. Frank Thomas played 34 games but got hurt early and didn't appear in the postseason at all.

[JustinD]

I know they got knocked out of the ALDS, but it's hard to leave the 2002 Oakland A's out for me. They should have won it all.

[Mike D.]

Someone mentioned the 2002 Angels. I'd say that if there's such as thing as a Hall of Fame closer, Francisco Rodríguez would at least have to be in the conversation. He's 4th all time in saves.