National: Any Seller's perspectives?

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Seven

Rich Parents, most likely!

Lime green Izod with the collar turned-up.

No chance his parents are not wealthy. They can't meet the rent, but he's in his room with his Babe Ruth card.

[Casey2296]

I would never discount new money moving into pre-war, which is imho true collecting, realize old school collectors might have paid $500 for a Green Cobb, and a bonafide new collector would have to pay 15k for the same experience, would you be willing to do the same to build your collection?

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I would never discount new money moving into pre-war, which is imho true collecting, realize old school collectors might have paid $500 for a Green Cobb, and a bonafide new collector would have to pay 15k for the same experience, would you be willing to do the same to build your collection?

I think if you are paying $15k for a card it is more of an investment than a collection

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by obcbobd

I think if you are paying $15k for a card it is more of an investment than a collection

Define investment, I'm a collector of pre-war and trying to build a respectable collection, 15k is the buy in for many of the big five e-cards. Adding a 14CJ Cobb is going to cost 3 times that, it takes serious commitment to be a pre-war collector nowadays, more than in the past.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Define investment, I'm a collector of pre-war and trying to build a respectable collection, 15k is the buy in for many of the big five e-cards. Adding a 14CJ Cobb is going to cost 3 times that, it takes serious commitment to be a pre-war collector nowadays, more than in the past.

What I mean is that many people who buy a a card at $15k or so, are just doing to sell it at a profit in a few years. Others, collectors like myself, while not investing, use the fact that the card will appreciate in value to justify the purchase, I may do the same in 3-4 years to finish a few sets I am working on. :-)

I think there are very few people, who buy a $15k card with no plans to sell at a profit, meaning they value the card at that price. I'd love a CJ 14 Cobb, and could pull money out of my Fidelity account to buy it, with out hurting myself too much financially, but I just can't see doing it. Perhaps the world has passed me by

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by obcbobd

What I mean is that many people who buy a a card at $15k or so, are just doing to sell it at a profit in a few years. Others, collectors like myself, while not investing, use the fact that the card will appreciate in value to justify the purchase, I may do the same in 3-4 years to finish a few sets I am working on. :-)

I think there are very few people, who buy a $15k card with no plans to sell at a profit, meaning they value the card at that price. I'd love a CJ 14 Cobb, and could pull money out of my Fidelity account to buy it, with out hurting myself too much financially, but I just can't see doing it. Perhaps the world has passed me by

I dont understand the point of these comments. Yes, collecting or investing or whatever you want to call it has gotten expensive. But dont tell us you are a “pure collector” because you only buy at lower prices than others. When you collected and bought cards for years, you ALWAYS bought at a price you thought would be good value. Didnt you bargain for prices at times? People paying $15k and up (and there are LOTS of them now, every major auction has tens of cards like that) believe that is good value. I for one dont buy them hoping to sell them higher in any foreseeable future, if I were to pay a high price for cards. To say those people are “investors” and you are a “true collector” is nonsense to me.

[Huck]

Interesting youtube discussion. The junk slab era. The trio mentions not only dividing the National into areas (ex. vintage vs modern) but by sport as well. Breaker boxes only for breakers. Those boxes will be loaded to fuel the hype. Sports card investing. Interesting times. I question whether this is going to end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaX77dPO3I

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Huck

Interesting youtube discussion. The junk slab era. The trio mentions not only dividing the National into areas (ex. vintage vs modern) but by sport as well. Breaker boxes only for breakers. Those boxes will be loaded to fuel the hype. Sports card investing. Interesting times. I question whether this is going to end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaX77dPO3I

Don't many dealers have multiple sports for sale? Don't see how that would work. I'm sure there's more than a few who sell both vintage and new as well.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Huck

Interesting youtube discussion. The junk slab era. The trio mentions not only dividing the National into areas (ex. vintage vs modern) but by sport as well. Breaker boxes only for breakers. Those boxes will be loaded to fuel the hype. Sports card investing. Interesting times. I question whether this is going to end well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcaX77dPO3I

Modern is so dumb.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by conor912

Modern is so dumb.

Why? When I was 12, and collecting 58Ts, they were all modern! Why can't the newer generations have their own cards, what else would you expect? And what else would you want, to keep the hobby fresh. Not to mention that it will be a gateway for many, when they start making real money, into vintage.