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Old 08-01-2023, 05:22 AM
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I was maniacal enough to wake up at 3 am to watch USWNT. Wow, that
was lame- by the US, anyway. It very, very much looks like this team falls
short on a) technical skill and b) team unity/cohesion. In the past, it's only
taken 1 of those 2 to win. Portugal should have won late, it's pure luck US
didn't lose 0-1. They were outplayed in 2 of the 3 Group matches and are
down Lavelle in the round of 16. The harsh (but apparently correct)
commentary of recent retiree Carli Lloyd is very revealing. That locker room
must be a nightmare. They better change or they won't make quarters.

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Old 08-01-2023, 05:41 AM
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I was maniacal enough to wake up at 3 am to watch USWNT. Wow, that
was lame- by the US, anyway. It very, very much looks like this team falls
short on a) technical skill and b) team unity/cohesion. In the past, it's only
taken 1 of those 2 to win. Portugal should have won late, it's pure luck US
didn't lose 0-1. They were outplayed in 2 of the 3 Group matches and are
down Lavelle in the round of 16. The harsh (but apparently correct)
commentary of recent retiree Carli Lloyd is very revealing. That locker room
must be a nightmare. They better change or they won't make quarters.

Trent King
I don’t know enough to comment but am pretty interested in how a team that has been so dominant for so many years can look so beatable. Twitter seems to think the coach is a huge problem with lack of subs. Is that part of it?
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Old 08-01-2023, 05:55 AM
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James- strictly an opinion, but I think the subbing issue is overblown, as
are injuries. Lots of teams have been bitten by injury bug this WC. It could
be that the coach is being "loyal" to a fault with some players who shouldn't
start, but the subbing issue itself doesn't resonate with me...

It could be that US turns it around next game. I think it would take a starting
11 shakeup, which isn't difficult. The inside the locker room/ outside the
sport concerns stuff may be killing this team. Trent King
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Old 08-01-2023, 06:59 AM
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I don’t know enough to comment but am pretty interested in how a team that has been so dominant for so many years can look so beatable. Twitter seems to think the coach is a huge problem with lack of subs. Is that part of it?
It's a new generation of players starting who are not used to the WC pressure. Other countries have mega pride representing their nations on live TV which leads to over achievement, and favorites underestimating their opponents. I'm sure off the field issues play a small role, but those issues mainly concerned veterans. It's the cycle every team must experience, even the Yankees. Why can't the new batch of Yankees win? Blame Aaron Boone. Why can't USWNT win? Blame the coach.

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Old 08-01-2023, 08:12 AM
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The women will not last long in the Knock out round if they keep playing the way they have the last 2 games. Especially against Portugal.
and Portugal is ranked 21st and it was there first world cup.

Team USA almost lost in injury time.

Could be ugly moving forward if they do not step up
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The women will not last long in the Knock out round if they keep playing the way they have the last 2 games. Especially against Portugal.
and Portugal is ranked 21st and it was there first world cup.

Team USA almost lost in injury time.

Could be ugly moving forward if they do not step up
Carli Lloyd is absolutely right. I'd frankly rather have a 41-year old Carli Lloyd out there on the field right now.

I think missing Becky Sauerbrunn hurts a lot, as Julie Ertz has to play center back (says a lot about how good Julie Ertz is) instead of her natural position as a defensive midfielder.

Andronovski seems to be pretending he's coaching a premier league men's team, where the quality is so high that you can change your lineup on the fly and still be in sync.

I suspect that our ladies are going to be fired up against Sweden, but it's going to take more than individual aggression and flair to beat them.
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Why is it in sports they when a team underperforms its always attributed to the same thing: they didn’t want it had enough. Kind of silly. Maybe the other teams talents matched or surpassed your team. It’s a tired canard. It’s always some variation about “how you didn’t want it bad enough”. Like Bobby Knight screaming at some kid who just missed two free throws that he doesn’t want it. It’s just one of those stupid things you hear over and over.

People can want to win very badly and not execute well. They are two totally separate things.

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Old 08-02-2023, 09:11 AM
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Why is it in sports they when a team underperforms its always attributed to the same thing: they didn’t want it had enough. Kind of silly. Maybe the other teams talents matched or surpassed your team. It’s a tired canard. It’s always some variation about “how you didn’t want it bad enough”. Like Bobby Knight screaming at some kid who just missed two free throws that he doesn’t want it. It’s just one of those stupid things you hear over and over.

People can want to win very badly and not execute well. They are two totally separate things.
I would agree and to me it is all about the execution of the players. The international talent level is up but most people believe that the US Team has the better Talent(with the gap not as wide vs some Teams). But they had better talent in the last round but it was lack of execution.
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Carli Lloyd is absolutely right. I'd frankly rather have a 41-year old Carli Lloyd out there on the field right now.

I think missing Becky Sauerbrunn hurts a lot, as Julie Ertz has to play center back (says a lot about how good Julie Ertz is) instead of her natural position as a defensive midfielder.

Andronovski seems to be pretending he's coaching a premier league men's team, where the quality is so high that you can change your lineup on the fly and still be in sync.

I suspect that our ladies are going to be fired up against Sweden, but it's going to take more than individual aggression and flair to beat them.
True missing Becky Sauerbrunn hurts, but Julie Ertz has to start in her natural position, which she distributes the ball well from there and has good chemistry with Lindsey Horan. Andonovski needs to move Ertz back to her position if they want to get past Sweden

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