In a different era....

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Nolan Ryan could have struck out over 1000 batters in a 600 inning season in the 1880s.

How many batters could have hit Shohei’s stuff in 1919 in “The House That Ohtani Built”?

Today every ball that hits the dirt is immediately replaced with a new one. Do you think the spitball pitchers of yesteryear would be effective today, not to mention having their hands checked by the men in blue?

Nolan Ryan could strike out 1000 batters or more in this era. Where they swing away and strikeouts are near all time highs

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Nolan Ryan could strike out 1000 batters or more in this era. Where they swing away and strikeouts are near all time highs

The last pitcher to face more than 1000 batters in a season was David Price who faced 1009 in 2014 so 1000 strikeouts in a season is unlikely. The most batters Ryan ever faced in a season was 1392 so he would have needed to strikeout almost 72% of the batters he faced to get to 1000.

Maybe he could throw enough innings still to face 1000 batters but I don't think he would be able to get to anywhere near 1000 strikeouts. Maybe 400-500 would be possible.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by jayshum

The last pitcher to face more than 1000 batters in a season was David Price who faced 1009 in 2014 so 1000 strikeouts in a season is unlikely. The most batters Ryan ever faced in a season was 1392 so he would have needed to strikeout almost 72% of the batters he faced to get to 1000.

Maybe he could throw enough innings still to face 1000 batters but I don't think he would be able to get to anywhere near 1000 strikeouts. Maybe 400-500 would be possible.

Sorry Jay, but in the 1880s 11 pitchers pitched more than 600 innings in a single season. For example Carlson in 1885 and pitched 623 innings and faced 2487 batters. You really think that Nolan Ryan would not be able to strike out 1000 hitters in 70 games in 1885. Granted that's 14.3 strikeout outs per game, but I would make that bet.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Sorry Jay, but in the 1880s 11 pitchers pitched more than 600 innings in a single season. For example Carlson in 1885 and pitched 623 innings and faced 2487 batters. You really think that Nolan Ryan would not be able to strike out 1000 hitters in 70 games in 1885. Granted that's 14.3 strikeout outs per game, but I would make that bet.

Frank, I was replying to Jeff's post saying that Ryan could strike out 1000 in this era. I wasn't commenting on your post about the 1880s. However, 1000 strikeouts back then still seems like a stretch since strikeouts were not as common back then and striking out a lot was not acceptable like it is now.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Frank, I was replying to Jeff's post saying that Ryan could strike out 1000 in this era. I wasn't commenting on your post about the 1880s. However, 1000 strikeouts back then still seems like a stretch since strikeouts were not as common back then and striking out a lot was not acceptable like it is now.

You’re confused about the premise I think.

Had the 1975 Ryan or the 1965 Koufax pitched in 1885, I truly the record for strikeouts in a nine inning game would be 27.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

You’re confused about the premise I think.

Had the 1975 Ryan or the 1965 Koufax pitched in 1885, I truly the record for strikeouts in a nine inning game would be 27.

I understand the premise. I just don't think Ryan would have been able to throw as hard over 600+ innings as he did over 300 innings so while his total for the season would probably be well beyond current records, I think 1000 would still not be reachable.