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Old 07-13-2023, 05:02 AM
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I am not high on restorations of cards as I feel it is a form of altering the cards. I like them as is.

With that said I understand it and we often see artwork, instruments, and other pieces restored to their original form.

And they often look amazing when it is done and done run. Although I think this restoration was not as good as it could have been.

and it is disclosed as restored so their is transparency so the bidders can chose if they want it or not.

With that said I would be happy to have that card in either condition. but if I had the choice I would pick the original condition.

From an investment point of view alot of the newer money in the hobby and not necessarily true collectors would picked the restored piece

I am estimating $1.7 million
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How did they even restore this card? Did someone make a documented process of the restoration?
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When did PSA start notating restored? Why isn’t it a qualifier?
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Its amazing what money will do. If this is restored, every card altered in a similar way is restored. If independent grading companies are blatantly giving preference to certain cards/customers, then they are far more worthless than even their most ardent critics could suggest.
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Its amazing what money will do. If this is restored, every card altered in a similar way is restored. If independent grading companies are blatantly giving preference to certain cards/customers, then they are far more worthless than even their most ardent critics could suggest.
I think restored is a better description if you think of it logically as a consumer for this card. It should not be seen as a more generous grade over authentic or authentic altered.

Restored by definition means that the entire card has been changed, which it has. An auth or auth altered does not describe the full breadth of change. It could in that grade make someone think it just had a press or little recolor. A restoration explains that this has had almost everything done.
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1.5 million. And what in the world did they do to that card.
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Here is a LINK to a documentation of a different restored T206 Wagner

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_106.html

This is only meant to give everyone an idea of the scope of work and to a degree how the work of restoration was done
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Agree. Just another egregious example of the corruption of PSA. If any of us did anything to a card, like coloring the corner on a 71 topps, we would get an automatic A (Altered)

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I agree restored cards are not for me and most true collectors.

And I really like the autographed analogy

Interesting that in comic books it is accepted. They are clearly labeled and are worth less than non restored. But still accepted
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