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Old 07-12-2023, 11:51 AM
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More like 8+ of each subject in a column.

The plate would have been a bit bigger than the sheet, and would have printed one color for an entire sheet all at once.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Steve. (and Greg)

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Steve is the master on all things printing.

My theory is a lot were printed while drunk.

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The actual "printing" of millions of T206 cards using Stones is going back to the "stone-age"

Actually, engraved images from the stones were then transferred to metal plates to be printed.

The American Lithographic Bldg. (where the T206 cards were printed) still stands in NYC at the
corner of 19th St. and 5th Ave. They used 19" wide cylindrical presses to produce the T206
cards.

Illustrated here is my concept......using the example of the Exclusive 12 cards in the 460-only
Series. I base this concept on American Lithograph's use of 19" wide cylindrical presses and the
standard size 19" x 24" cardboard sheets of that period (1909 - 1911).


.. v ............................................ 19" x 24" sheet .............................................v



This topic has been discussed on Net54 as far back as 2007 (and several more times since then).
For more specific info regarding the Exclusive 12 group, check out this link.... T206 Reference


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The American Lithographic Bldg. (where the T206 cards were printed) still stands in NYC at the
corner of 19th St. and 5th Ave. They used 19" wide cylindrical presses to produce the T206
cards.

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What's the source evidence that all the T206's were printed in this particular facility? We know they controlled many facilities.

I do not see how we can claim this layout and sheet size to be a fact rather than one of many possibilities. We know that at least some of the ATC sheets were much, much larger than this. They may not all have been the same size, or of this size.
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What's the source evidence that all the T206's were printed in this particular facility? We know they controlled many facilities.
No one said that American Lithographic in NYC was the only printing facility which produced Tobacco cards ! !


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I do not see how we can claim this layout and sheet size to be a fact rather than one of many possibilities. We know that at least some of the ATC sheets were much, much larger than this. They may not all have been the same size, or of this size.
I did NOT claim that my sheet was a "FACT"......I did say it was my "CONCEPT", which I based on my long-term
research of Tobacco cards and Printing methods (I did work in a Print Shop when I was in High School).

So, what is your problem ? .....My use of 19"- wide cylindrical presses, or the standard size 19" x 24" cardboard
sheets
, or both ? ?


If so, then GOOGLE.....American Lithograph and it's working operation (1909 - 1919). Because that is my source
of information.



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Old 07-13-2023, 08:37 PM
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No one said that American Lithographic in NYC was the only printing facility which produced Tobacco cards ! !




I did NOT claim that my sheet was a "FACT"......I did say it was my "CONCEPT", which I based on my long-term
research of Tobacco cards and Printing methods (I did work in a Print Shop when I was in High School).

So, what is your problem ? .....My use of 19"- wide cylindrical presses, or the standard size 19" x 24" cardboard
sheets
, or both ? ?


If so, then GOOGLE.....American Lithograph and it's working operation (1909 - 1919). Because that is my source
of information.



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Do you have any evidence that T206 was printed in this particular facility? If so, what is this evidence? We know where a few of the sets were printed from primary source documents, but T206 does not appear to be in them. I’m very interested to see the evidence T206 was done in this building.

Your sheet layout is a “concept”, but you gave the press size producing the sheet as an absolute fact. This is not proven. You have a source from Google that details them using this sheet size to make T206?

If one makes a claim to fact, there should be the evidence for it. To be asked for evidence is not a problem. I am happy to provide my source for every claim to fact I have ever made, as is reasonable and the standard for research.
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