Slabbed 1887 WS Kimball Baseball Sheet A42

[bigfanNY]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

To waste everyone's time? By making a point that I already conceded that PSA can make mistakes and opinions vary on many autographs?

This was my answer to your Ken Boyer Question... you keep using the word evidence. But Eveyone understands it is a weak argument to say that PSA makes mistakes. When I post an autograph for sale without a cert ( and I have sold auto's here without certs) I make sure to vet the signature. Blown up next to real examples it is easy to see this is a forgery. Drawn slow, stright line that should be curved, hesitation. All these things were pointed out to me. I said Before I was lazy. I should have vetted the auto before I bought. All I have ever said was

1. Tom Rebert sold a fake Lebron Auto here on Net54
2. Before Doing business with you folks should look at your posts. And be careful.
3. You keep saying that I only lost $3 in postage but I sent it back in a Priority envelope which is $9.95. You said multiple times the card only cost $100 when it fact was $145. And again not the amount of Money. It is the way you do business. Not vetting auto's, reselling auto's returned to you as no good Again without vetting. Only one type of seller dose that...

Just the facts..

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Sunshine is correct! One TPG "OPINION" Authenticated , the other TPG "OPINION" did not Authentic. Sunshine Life isn't fair, you got your 100.00 refunded, but not the $3.00 shipping fee as in my terms.
I traded the LeBron for $5,000 in artifacts.( probably wont hit a home-run, but if one item Carbon Dates correct
I'll be asking between $10,000 and $20,000 plus) You did me a great favor returning the card. I'm thanking you from the bottom of my Pea Picking Heart.

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So not happy enough wasting my time and Money with your fake. You post here how after being informed that the card has failed TPG You Tom Rebert Trade the fake for $5k in Artifacts to an Advanced Autograph Collector that tells you it doesn't match up with Lebron James Signature. Then over this past weekend the value of the artifacts ( Depending on carbon dating ) magically grows into Ten to Twenty Thousand Dollars.
Then you post here and brag about your crime.
Proclaiming that just because other reputable sources say it is fake "I Tom Rebert claim it is real" despite also Proclaiming that you have no expertise in Autographs. And providing no credible opinion that the Autograph is real.
Selling fake Autographs is a profitable endeavor. Little cost for the product and not everyone is going to research the forgeries you sold. Some of the forgeries sit for years maybe decades in collections. Some percentage of sales will result in you keeping the money And the collectors never knowing that Your word and the Forgery you sold are worthless.
Unfortunately many collectors here on Net54 know that unethical sellers like yourself continue along because it is difficult to put you in jail. All that can be done is post the details and hope that it reaches others you have sold fakes to. And hopefully to prevent a few collectors from making the same mistake I did.

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Good evening Sunshine--hope your feeling better.

Sunshine I need your advise, I'm thinking about to buying a A35 Anson album page --do you think a TPG will grade?

Have a wonderful relaxing evening--thanks again!

[bigfanNY]

Tom

Thank you for responding with more smoke and Mirrors, while avoiding posting any direct response to the fact that you sold a Fake Lebron James Autograph and then after it was returned you traded it to another collector. And not just any collector an Advanced Autograph Collector. Who was astute enough to tell you it did not match known examples. But despite that fact traded you $10,000 to $20,000 worth of "Artifacts" ..as you noted they need to pass Carbon dating but clearly a vast, VAST overpayment for a card that would typically sell for maybe a couple Hundred bucks.
And then in what can only be seen as a monumental wrong read of a room you come here and brag about your crime. It is in fact a crime to sell a forged signature.
Any other Crimes you have commited and scored big?
I myself am a big fan of Law and order, true crime drama fascinates me. Please regale us.
When I first joined Net54 there was a buyer beware notice on the board. Now there is a Beware of scammers warning at the top of each sale category The reason is that unfortunately folks like you selling fakes. And although no one enjoys a crook a very entertaining crook is just slightly easier to tolerate.

It would be wrong not to answer your question after pointing out you did not answer mine. I already posted to your original Kimball thread that I did not believe PSA would grade an album page that had been removed from an album. Despite you stating that PSA would Authenticate and Grade your single Kimbell page. It was a clear lie. But thank you for reminding anyone new to this thread that you have lied before. Statments like 90% of card collectors dont even know what a Kimball is are wrong but not outright lies. Just wrong. I belive that more than 10% of collectors have read through or studied the ACC, and there are not very many Baseball cards pictured in the ACC but a Kimball is one of them.

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Sorry for the late response, just woke up from a very nice and healthy Nap. Power Naps are wonderful!
Sorry Sunshine, could you please repeat your opinion, so you don't believe a TPG will authenticate or grade a A35?---thanks again!

P/s Quote: Per Sunshine "Statments like 90% of card collectors dont even know what a Kimbell is are wrong but not outright lies. Just wrong. I belive that more than 10% of collectors have read through or studied the ACC, and there are not very many Baseball cards pictured in the ACC but a Kimbell is one of them" ?

Sunshine could you please let our fellow collectors know what page the Kimbell cards can been found--not trying to be mean but sorry I've never heard of Kimbell cards ?

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Kimball N184 sorry my spell check

But Again enough with the smoke and Mirrors. You keep saying that TPG's make mistakes but you provide no independent opinions that the signature you sold is real. I posted the signature you sold above.
I had heard the term kitchen table forgery but never in regard to a signature I owned. Until ....you guessed it.. until I showed the Lebron James signature you Tom Rebert sold me to a Lebron James Collector. He pointed out things like the 90 degree angles in the signature.
As I said before I was lazy. Having done smooth easy business here on Net54 for ten years, when a board member gives me there word it is good I thought it ment something. When I read if I am not satisfied when I receive the card I can return it, I dont even consider that my lack of satisfaction would be due to Tom Rebert selling me a fake. Selling fakes goes way beyond not being satisfied. But I suggest that anyone doing business with Tom Rebert get exactly what happens if the item is found to be a fake or misrepresented.
So if you are going to argue that all third party graders make mistakes and PSA failed a Ken Boyer that JSA said was good. Show me one independent source that will stand behind the Lebron James Signature YOU sold. And lets not forget you sold it Twice!!