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Old 07-06-2023, 05:05 PM
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I don't follow. If he never comes to the plate again, Trout has far surpassed those three players, and is already an easy HOF pick.
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Trout's career seems to be mirroring someone who he was compared to quite often in his 20's, Mickey Mantle. It's unfortunate, but History does indeed repeat itself.

In terms of his counting numbers, assuming a decent bill of health, over the last 7 years of his contract, I would think he easily surpasses 500 Homers. 3000 hits is possible, but he would essentially have to play 150+ games every year from next year until the end of his current deal, in 2030.
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Trout's career seems to be mirroring someone who he was compared to quite often in his 20's, Mickey Mantle. It's unfortunate, but History does indeed repeat itself.

In terms of his counting numbers, assuming a decent bill of health, over the last 7 years of his contract, I would think he easily surpasses 500 Homers. 3000 hits is possible, but he would essentially have to play 150+ games every year from next year until the end of his current deal, in 2030.
Big assumption and His health history does not make that seem realistic
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Big assumption and His health history does not make that seem realistic
The 3000 hits? I would agree, it's a long shot at this point, unless if he did what I outlined.

500 Homers? He would pretty much have to replicate the current season, he is having 7 more times, which I think he's capable of doing.
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The 3000 hits? I would agree, it's a long shot at this point, unless if he did what I outlined.

500 Homers? He would pretty much have to replicate the current season, he is having 7 more times, which I think he's capable of doing.
I hope you are right and that is not a bad estimation but I do not think he will age well and I think as he gets older his time to recover will be longer. So 3 to 4 years maybe and then I think it will tail off
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The 3000 hits? I would agree, it's a long shot at this point, unless if he did what I outlined.

500 Homers? He would pretty much have to replicate the current season, he is having 7 more times, which I think he's capable of doing.
I hope you are right and that is not a bad estimation but I do not think he will age well and I think as he gets older his time to recover will be longer. So 3 to 4 years maybe and then I think it will tail off.

The only thing that might prolong it and make it more doable is if moves to the DH role sooner then later
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I hope you are right and that is not a bad estimation but I do not think he will age well and I think as he gets older his time to recover will be longer. So 3 to 4 years maybe and then I think it will tail off.

The only thing that might prolong it and make it more doable is if moves to the DH role sooner then later
The injuries may all be unrelated, but if nothing else it seems he has lost his karma. So much missed time since 2017. And while he seemed healthy until this latest injury, he was definitely a level off from his top game. I am more pessimistic than optimistic.
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I don't follow. If he never comes to the plate again, Trout has far surpassed those three players, and is already an easy HOF pick.
WAR, not the be all and end all I understand, agrees with Peter. Trout is already pretty darn elite and certain way above the floor guys here. Heck, he’s actually at or above the ceiling guys.
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I assumed the comparison is a joke but we have a +1 for it. I’d love to read a rational argument as to how Mike Trout and Michael Young are comparable performance players.
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I assumed the comparison is a joke but we have a +1 for it. I’d love to read a rational argument as to how Mike Trout and Michael Young are comparable performance players.
Ah maybe it sailed right over my head.
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WAR, not the be all and end all I understand, agrees with Peter. Trout is already pretty darn elite and certain way above the floor guys here. Heck, he’s actually at or above the ceiling guys.
3 MVPs, 3 2nds, and probably deserved to win 4 or even 5.
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Michael Young played almost all 162 games each season in his prime. Here are their current career numbers. I am showing traditional stats. Trout looks better in the advanced stat comparison. I am joking in the sense that these numbers are far, far closer than many fans buying Trout cards realize. Trout will need to grind until 2030 to reach Mantle's numbers.
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I'm guessing the Bagwell comment had to do with his seasons after age 31?

Otherwise it's truly a mystery as to why his name would be brought up.
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I'm guessing the Bagwell comment had to do with his seasons after age 31?

Otherwise it's truly a mystery as to why his name would be brought up.
That's what I'm assuming, In terms of how Trout might age?

Honestly we can speculate until we're blue in the face, we have no idea what might happen. I remember thinking David Ortiz was cooked after 2008, and he went on a pretty solid run afterwards. Similarly I thought Miguel Cabrera found his groove again, after his 2016 season, and he fell off a cliff. Time will tell, with Mike Trout.
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If someone's favorite movie is Smokey and the Bandit, I'm not going to be able to convince them that Five Easy Pieces is better, but it's still fun to debate.

Trout has a long way to go and a short time to get there, to catch Baggy.

Kiner is a comp if Trout decides to retire this offseason.
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