Need help on this Mantle please...

[shelly]

I have sent the picture to Ken Golden and Scott Stimmel two outstanding autograph people. Let's see what they say. If nothing, then i will go with Chris
By the way there are five yeas to one ney. I should win on that alone.

I asked you before. please show me another example I have shown two.

[eastonfalcon19]

There's people on this board including Shelly who I would trust over any 3rd party's opinion. Also FWIW, Shelly has been on point with every autograph I've asked help with over the years. So A2000, as my dad used to say to my mom when he came home from an auction "GET THE CHECKBOOK OUT".

[A2000]

Shelly, you're asking me to show you examples of this FORGERY? Why would I keep examples of such an obvious forgery?

PSA/DNA quick opinion and Beckett Signature Review are done by their respective authenticators, but that's not enough? On something as easy and common as Mickey Mantle? The TPAs have done thousands upon thousands of Mantles, and even the biggest TPA haters would acknowledge their accuracy on him is very reliable.

[HOFAUTOS]

This is bad and there are other Mantle inscribed versions using this same forgery style. You’ll also find it on bats. Some originated from American Memorabilia in their early days and had 100% Authentic coas. No authenticator will pass this. It’s a quick fail just like other common Mantle forgery styles.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

This is bad and there are other Mantle inscribed versions using this same forgery style. You’ll also find it on bats. Some originated from American Memorabilia in their early days and had 100% Authentic coas. No authenticator will pass this. It’s a quick fail just like other common Mantle forgery styles.

Forget all the writeing on the piece. Are you saying the signiture is a easy forgery?

[shelly]

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Compare the sucks to this photo and the other. I am trying to prove what I am saying. Unlike you who is just saying with no proof.

This photo is from History for Sale

[A2000]

Shelly, I'm not going to post anymore on this. As you can see from my post count, I normally do not post, because I realize how pointless it is to get into a back and forth debate on a message board.

I've said it will fail third party authentication by JSA, PSA/DNA, Beckett in a heartbeat. Anyone who buys/sells/deals in Mantle will recognize this to be an instant fail. I've suggested a simple $10 Quick Opinion by psa or Beckett would settle this quickly.

As far as the autograph itself, take a look at how exaggerated the motions are within the signature. Take a look at the content. Do you really think Mickey Mantle, when he was alive would just add these type of silly inscriptions attacking Joe Dimaggio over and over? And these attacks only appear with this type of handwriting? And of course, these never come with any reputable TPA certification?

I've given Leon my contact information so he knows I'm not some message board troll.

[shelly]

I appreciate what you are saying. I have my thoughts on this as you have yours. Let it end there.

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by A2000

. Do you really think Mickey Mantle, when he was alive would just add these type of silly inscriptions attacking Joe Dimaggio over and over? And these attacks only appear with this type of handwriting?

The answer to that part of your statement is 100% yes. I do 100% believe he would write anything you wanted if you paid him to do so. I have seen Mantle write all sorts of things, both appropriate and not, over and over again. The man had no filter often times.
If you want an example of how inappropriate he could be, just look at the questionnaire from the 1973 Old timers/Yankee Stadium celebration he filled out. It was Sold Last year for $242K in Lelands auction.

https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=112036

Certainly, If her could write that to the Yankees, even as a joke, he could write things about Joe D, especially if he was being paid.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by shelly

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Compare the sucks to this photo and the other. I am trying to prove what I am saying. Unlike you who is just saying with no proof.

This photo is from History for Sale

We all know who penned this one and it wasn't Mickey Mantle!

[Terrier8HOF]

I agree with Mr. Zipper on this, I also believe it is a forgery.