The Mets - Same crap as the last crap

[tod41]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Lot of Met fans who hate Beltran or Carlos Delgado will wax poetic about Joe McEwing. Twisted fan base in a lot of ways.

Ridiculous. No Mets fan ever said that. Lindor has a 726 OPS for a number 3 hitter and the supposed star player. He is a big problem. He is a very good fielder that is durable. He is not the impact player that Piazza and Beltran were and there is 8 years left of this.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by tod41

Ridiculous. No Mets fan ever said that. Lindor has a 726 OPS for a number 3 hitter and the supposed star player. He is a big problem. He is a very good fielder that is durable. He is not the impact player that Piazza and Beltran were and there is 8 years left of this.

Well Said.

And for me different times and different conversations. Lindor is not living up to his contract but even if he was the team would still be bad. The issues are still how the team was built (Eppler bad job), the performance of many players(Sherzer, Verlander, etc etc), and even the managing has not been up to par. Even the lack of hustles, the lack of discipline the little things.

In the end they can turn it around but We are not expecting it.

They should be sellers leading up to the trade deadline and make space for new players for next year.

Sadly

[Snapolit1]

I'm old enough to remember when people bitched incessanrtly about Piazza. For years. He was never very good until he retired.

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Well Said.

And for me different times and different conversations. Lindor is not living up to his contract but even if he was the team would still be bad. The issues are still how the team was built (Eppler bad job), the performance of many players(Sherzer, Verlander, etc etc), and even the managing has not been up to par. Even the lack of hustles, the lack of discipline the little things.

In the end they can turn it around but We are not expecting it.

They should be sellers leading up to the trade deadline and make space for new players for next year.

Sadly

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I'm old enough to remember when people bitched incessanrtly about Piazza. For years. He was never very good until he retired.

Fans booed Piazza a lot during his first season, its funny how some fans forget that or even denied that it happened.

[tod41]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Fans booed Piazza a lot during his first season, its funny how some fans forget that or even denied that it happened.

It's not about what fans did - it's about what Pizza did. Lindor was paid like he was an impact superstar player which he is clearly not. Piazza, for the most part, delivered.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by tod41

It's not about what fans did - it's about what Pizza did. Lindor was paid like he was an impact superstar player which he is clearly not. Piazza, for the most part, delivered.

Honestly, I do not care what Lindor makes,it has no effect on signing other players so its irrelevant.

Lindor was an impact player last year and is on pace for 30 HR/ 100 RBI this year and plays good defense. How many shortstops will have those numbers?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Honestly, I do not care what Lindor makes,it has no effect on signing other players so its irrelevant.

Lindor was an impact player last year and is on pace for 30 HR/ 100 RBI this year and plays good defense. How many shortstops will have those numbers?

He’s also on pace for the most strikeouts in his career (by far), the lowest batting average in his career, and the second lowest ops in his career (the only season lower being his first season as a Met).

[tod41]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I'm old enough to remember when people bitched incessanrtly about Piazza. For years. He was never very good until he retired.

Irrelevant. Has Lindor played like Piazza did from 98 to 01?

[Snapolit1]

Yeah, no Mets fan every talked about how special Joe McEwing was. Not one. Never happened. Not one guy.


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Originally Posted by mrreality68

Well Said.

And for me different times and different conversations. Lindor is not living up to his contract but even if he was the team would still be bad. The issues are still how the team was built (Eppler bad job), the performance of many players(Sherzer, Verlander, etc etc), and even the managing has not been up to par. Even the lack of hustles, the lack of discipline the little things.

In the end they can turn it around but We are not expecting it.

They should be sellers leading up to the trade deadline and make space for new players for next year.

Sadly

[Jim65]

Steve Cohen felt he needed to sign Lindor to send a message that the Wilpons were not running the team anymore.

Fans can't see past the contract and will always use that to trash Lindor. The contract does not stop the Mets from signing other players, evidenced by the Carlos Correa contract. Why do fans care so much about a players salary? If Lindor was making $10M, fans would love him.

[TUM301]

The Mets remind me of the Snyder/Redskins days when they just threw truck loads pf money around. Side note, thought they should have gone all in on Mookie Betts. Could they have signed him, who knows, but he`d surely have helped a great deal.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by TUM301

The Mets remind me of the Snyder/Redskins days when they just threw truck loads pf money around. Side note, thought they should have gone all in on Mookie Betts. Could they have signed him, who knows, but he`d surely have helped a great deal.

The Wilpons owned the Mets at that time and they never would've paid Betts.