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Old 06-20-2023, 07:52 PM
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Default Yes, no, no

Definite yes for Rose.

Equally definite No's for Bonds and Clemens.
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:01 PM
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This is one of those questions that will go on forever, until the end of time til time itself comes to any end.
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:13 PM
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No way in hell for Rose. Clemens and Bonds belong in the HOF.
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:26 PM
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NO for all three!
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Old 06-20-2023, 08:38 PM
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Default Bob Feller said it pretty well and in his usual plain spoken manner

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The answer to this question is an easy one and it's in one word, No, No, and No. Several years ago, I met Bob Feller at a card show in Florida. He showed me a paper about the qualifications to be a Hall of Famer. Besides the stats, which all these great baseball players have, is to be a member in good standing. Rose as you know bet on baseball and most likely his own team doesn't qualify and of course Clemens and Bonds bulked up from steroids so they would not qualify as well.
BBSPORTS said it very well in quoting one great American, war hero and pitcher, Robert William Andrew Feller. Thanks, BBSPORTS!
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Yes on all 3.
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Wow...

Set emotions and kid favorites aside... READ The Fix Is In, by Daniel Ginsburg.

All 3 had HOF careers, but it is the "other stuff" that does them in.

Clemens - NO

Bonds - Maybe, one day

Rose - As a guest, any time he buys a ticket for admission, on a day by day basis, I think they're open 363 days a year; but absolutely no induction.

Rose was a tremendous competitor, awesome ballplayer. Clemens was a dominant pitcher. Bonds had longevity as a player, and the balls he hit had their own longevity as they sailed outa the ball parks.

Read Ginsburg's book. The league's evolved away from being a drinking and gambling sport that gentile folk would avoid... it wasn't America's game back then. Educate yourselves.
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In eventually. If you think they need to be punished and only get in once they pass I understand such thinking. But all three are all time great players and should be in the hall.o see no rational reason to keep out bonds and Clemens. Why allow lesser cheats in the hall but not those who performed the best? So it’s ok to juice if you aren’t already an all time great? What an asinine position.

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Read Ginsburg's book. The league's evolved away from being a drinking and gambling sport that gentile folk would avoid... it wasn't America's game back then. Educate yourselves.
I would be more sympathetic to MLBs dudgeon about such lowbrow behavior if they weren't currently being sponsored by two sportsbooks, Fanduel and MGM Resorts.

That said, my only rigid opinion on the matter is that Rose should be kept out of the Hall solely because of what he did to Ray Fosse in the 1970 All Star Game.
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