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Old 06-15-2023, 02:19 PM
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I don't think people collect modern cards for the most part. They are investing and flipping. Most of these cards crash in value. The only current player that should even be considered is Mike Trout.

Most collected players are players that people buy to keep in their collection. The most collectible players by definition are going to be players whose cards are more difficult to find because they are locked away in collections.
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Old 06-15-2023, 06:35 PM
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I don't think people collect modern cards for the most part. They are investing and flipping. Most of these cards crash in value. The only current player that should even be considered is Mike Trout.

Most collected players are players that people buy to keep in their collection. The most collectible players by definition are going to be players whose cards are more difficult to find because they are locked away in collections.
I bet they probably also put sugar on their porridge.

If anyone is interested in a semi-scientific study, there is a Player Collection thread on Blowout forums. If the length of the lines are indicative of anything other than character count, then the five most popular players to collect are:

Ken Griffey. Jr
Bryce Harper
Derek Jeter
Nolan Ryan
David Wright

Added in edit: The question was who the most collected players are, not the most collectible. Out in the workaday world, there is a difference.

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I bet they probably also put sugar on their porridge.

If anyone is interested in a semi-scientific study, there is a Player Collection thread on Blowout forums. If the length of the lines are indicative of anything other than character count, then the five most popular players to collect are:

Ken Griffey. Jr
Bryce Harper
Derek Jeter
Nolan Ryan
David Wright

Added in edit: The question was who the most collected players are, not the most collectible. Out in the workaday world, there is a difference.
And only one of those players are active, which proves my point. All those other players that Blowout guys collected, Mattingly, Gooden, Canseco, Thomas, etc. they have moved on from when their performance declined. Ryan, Griffey and Jeter would be on my top 20, not top 10.

You have to remember the majority of Blowout are collectors of a specific age that grew up in the junk wax era. Not a good representation of the hobby either.
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Mantle
Ruth
Jeter
Ryan
Rose
Robinson
Aaron
Griffey jr
Mays
Clemente

There are better players than some of these guys but I don’t think there are many that are more collected. Trout and or ohtani may belong on this list somewhere but I’m not sure who I’d take off. Ripken jr also has a lot of collectors.i am honestly not sure cobb Wagner etc have more collectors than the post war guys. I know we would mostly rather have their cards but this is not a group that is even close to representing how the majority of the hobby feels.

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To me I like the combo of Vintage, popularity and Rarity!
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Griffey is hands down the #1 most collected baseball player in the hobby. And it's not close. While many of the pre-war guys might be more desirable, they're priced out for the majority of collectors. Blending these lists is not easy. But I think the top 10 probably looks something like this:

1. Ken Griffey Jr.
2. Mike Trout
3. Babe Ruth
4. Jackie Robinson
5. Mickey Mantle
6. Willie Mays
7. Ty Cobb
8. Hank Aaron
9. Nolan Ryan
10. Roberto Clemente
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Travis' list still looks too skewed to vintage to me. How may people are really buying Babe Ruth cards? I have to believe Jeter is on any hobby inclusive list, for example. And currently, Ohtani for sure.
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Ken Griffey. Jr
Bryce Harper
Derek Jeter
Nolan Ryan
David Wright
And only one of those players are active, which proves my point.
I am not sure what point you thinks this proves, but it certainly lends no support to your list above of who you think are the most collected players. All the players took from Blowout are alive and familiar to modern collectors. On your list of 10, only 1 is alive and 1 (other) has actually played a game in the last half century. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone comment here about how shows today are 80-90% modern or how younger collectors don't know or care about those old time greats anymore. So, I have a hard time taking seriously most of the lists suggested upthread.

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You have to remember the majority of Blowout are collectors of a specific age that grew up in the junk wax era. Not a good representation of the hobby either.
While I am not suggesting the list I took from BO is necessarily correct, it is much more representative that most of the lists suggested in this thread. Similarly, I believe BO is much more representative of the broader collecting community than any other similar congregation of people. And way more representative than net54. You have to remember that the majority of Net54 are collectors of a specific age, and wealth status. Most collectors are not in a position to drop multiple C-notes for the gnarliest playing days card of Ty Cobb.

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Blowout not only is more representative, its membership dwarfs that of 54, so there is that.
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We're not on Blowout. That's a different hobby. King Tuck parallel's and Luis Roberts and all of that. I think it's a great hobby that they have, but I'm not in that hobby.
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I am not sure what point you thinks this proves, but it certainly lends no support to your list above of who you think are the most collected players. All the players took from Blowout are alive and familiar to modern collectors. On your list of 10, only 1 is alive and 1 (other) has actually played a game in the last half century. I can't count the number of times I've seen someone comment here about how shows today are 80-90% modern or how younger collectors don't know or care about those old time greats anymore. So, I have a hard time taking seriously most of the lists suggested upthread.



While I am not suggesting the list I took from BO is necessarily correct, it is much more representative that most of the lists suggested in this thread. Similarly, I believe BO is much more representative of the broader collecting community than any other similar congregation of people. And way more representative than net54. You have to remember that the majority of Net54 are collectors of a specific age, and wealth status. Most collectors are not in a position to drop multiple C-notes for the gnarliest playing days card of Ty Cobb.

Now if you will excuse me, I need crack open a bottle of Château Lafite Rothschild and let it breath. It should pair quite nicely with the Dominos MeatZZa that is on its way.

You quoted my post where I said that current players shouldn't be on the list except maybe Trout and you posted your list from Blowout that was 80% retired players. So how doesn't that prove my point?

You posted a list from people who grew up as kids collecting junk era cards in the 90s and of course they are going to have guys that were hot then Ryan, Griffey and Jeter. I set up at card shows for 30 years and I don't think I have ever been asked for a David Wright card. To have Harper as the only active player instead of Trout, Judge or Ohtani makes no sense.
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I don't think people collect modern cards for the most part. They are investing and flipping. Most of these cards crash in value. The only current player that should even be considered is Mike Trout.

Most collected players are players that people buy to keep in their collection. The most collectible players by definition are going to be players whose cards are more difficult to find because they are locked away in collections.
I would bet my life most people buying modern cards are collectors. Sure, there are flippers and investors, but that does not negate the overall proposition. These things are produced and purchased by the millions. People are collecting them.
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