The Card Altering Services Saga Continues

[Johnny630]

I've seen 51 Bowman's turn to the consistency of peanut brittle/hard as a rock...could smell the odor of some kind of chemical applied to the card....I don't know but from judging the dealers other 51's of lesser caliber common cards of which many of them had wax stains on the back. I'm assuming some kind of chemical maybe acetone or mineral spirits could have bee used on the back to get the wax off. I wonder if feel and texture goes into account on vintage card grading by the TPG's.

[troutbum97]

1952 Bowman Mantle "PSA 7.5" .... or "A" ??

Bottom border looks perfect, square & original.

Convince me the top border was not trimmed.

https://goldin.co/item/1952-bowman-1...sa-nm-7-5o94vf

[Seven]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

1952 Bowman Mantle "PSA 7.5" .... or "A" ??

Bottom border looks perfect, square & original.

Convince me the top border was not trimmed.

https://goldin.co/item/1952-bowman-1...sa-nm-7-5o94vf

That's a funky top border, If I ever saw one, but my 52 Bowman in an SGC 1.5 also has a weird top border. I'll put it below.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

1952 Bowman Mantle "PSA 7.5" .... or "A" ??

Bottom border looks perfect, square & original.

Convince me the top border was not trimmed.

https://goldin.co/item/1952-bowman-1...sa-nm-7-5o94vf

Could be trimmed, but could also not be. There's no shortage of factory miscuts from this set.

But that surface... yikes! That's some pretty bad print lines for a 7.5

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

1952 Bowman Mantle "PSA 7.5" .... or "A" ??

Bottom border looks perfect, square & original.

Convince me the top border was not trimmed.

https://goldin.co/item/1952-bowman-1...sa-nm-7-5o94vf

That looks dog-eared as can be, I think it's obvious choice.

As for Seven's 1.5, that looks like natural wear and not a concern. Yes, there are plenty of miscuts in those sets and some seem suspect and some not. If I saw a smoother transition to the corner and less questionable angles, maybe I could write it off. As it sits, nada.

I would never spend that kind of money for something I would think is an A grade, when I just could get a better actual A grade for far, far less.

There's a selection of authentic altered cards in that auction, my question would be is this from the same consigner? Good shot that in submissions, some get through as we all well know and some don't.

And before the lawyers come calling...this is only an opinion, I have not held these cards.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

1952 Bowman Mantle "PSA 7.5" .... or "A" ??

Bottom border looks perfect, square & original.

Convince me the top border was not trimmed.

https://goldin.co/item/1952-bowman-1...sa-nm-7-5o94vf

top right corner does appear to have that telltale "tit" as is typical with trim jobs......

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

top right corner does appear to have that telltale "tit" as is typical with trim jobs......

I believe the Telltale Tit was written by Edgar Allan Poe.

Brian

[glynparson]

A bowman not being perfectly square is far from evidence of trimming. There are tons of legit funky cuts in bowmans and anyone who actually pays attention to their cards should know this. That being said I have no firm opinion on the mantle. Personally I’d probably pass based on the scans but I would in no way be positive it’s trimmed simply from the one pic/scan.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I believe the Telltale Tit was written by Edgar Allan Poe.

Brian

As was Ears of the Bat.