The Card Altering Services Saga Continues

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Leon

That video is eye opening but, with the money involved in the hobby, most won't care. Sad.
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I had another post about what has changed most in the last few years. The amount of money in the hobby currently is insane and I don’t see that changing.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

I had another post about what has changed most in the last few years. The amount of money in the hobby currently is insane and I don’t see that changing.

What is in place for it to continue? The quick buck flips of modern are gone. Chase cards harder to find. People losing weekly/daily on "set breaks". Psa graders tougher than ever. Many headwinds here, aside from recession, bitcoin tanking etc

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

What is in place for it to continue? The quick buck flips of modern are gone. Chase cards harder to find. People losing weekly/daily on "set breaks". Psa graders tougher than ever. Many headwinds here, aside from recession, bitcoin tanking etc

I'm not seeing any softening on the really good stuff, vintage prewar, and Post War in Major AH’s I’m not talking average stuff I’m talking high end quality vintage in high grades..I see no headwinds at all. Investment grade cards again not mediocre PSA 8 60’s mantles I’m talking Cobbs Ruth’s 6’s and above along with 50’s mantles mays Jackie in 8’s and 9’s. Not slowing. The set breaks modern and crypto are all garbage not shocked it’s tanking and has further to go. The goods not going anywhere.

[mordecaibrown1]

This stuff has been going on since the 80’s
Ruth’s Frankenstein together using parts from commons
Turning them into high grade cards

[Seven]

Originally Posted by mordecaibrown1

This stuff has been going on since the 80’s
Ruth’s Frankenstein together using parts from commons
Turning them into high grade cards

Can you go into a little more depth about this, I haven't heard about it before. Goudey's were getting cut up and pasted together?

[mordecaibrown1]

Back then I knew one of the restorers quite well. He told me the process. And not just Goudey's. Many cards from many sets 1800's up to the 1950's. Even full sets.

[Snowman]

Perhaps I'm missing something. Where is he altering cards? All I see is a guy taking cards with bent up corners and pushing them back down, sticking cards in a humidor and then letting them dry them flat, and gently cleaning smudges off the surfaces of cards.

If any of these actions I mentioned qualify as "altering" a card to you (resulting in it not being grade worthy), then you might as well just throw in the towel on collecting cards altogether. Because 99% of collectors who have raw cards with bent up corners are going to try to push those back down. And sticking a card in a humidor is no different from shipping one from Vegas to New Orleans in the summer.