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View Poll Results: Having a pedigree on a TPG holder
Is good and helps the item 64 63.37%
Not good as the item is the only thing that matters 6 5.94%
Doesn’t affect the value one way or another 31 30.69%
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Old 06-08-2023, 12:48 PM
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Old 06-08-2023, 12:52 PM
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I think it’s kind of cool to have some cards with a famous collector like Buck Barker or Lionel Carter. Other than that….. doesn’t add anything for me.
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I think it is pretty cool and for memorabilia it might help especially with real collectors but for most people and for flippers I do not think it matters
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I think there should have been another option.


D. Pedigreed from someone that actually matters.


I couldn't care less about a Collectors Collector pedigree....but a Lionel Carter
or Skydash Collection (because of provenance) would add a little bit for me.

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Means nothing to me. I'll buy a card from anyone if I want it, therefore I'm not too interested in who had it first.
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I think there should have been another option.


D. Pedigreed from someone that actually matters.


I couldn't care less about a Collectors Collector pedigree....but a Lionel Carter
or Skydash Collection (because of provenance) would add a little bit for me.

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provenance from someone who matters reminds me of "Preferred by those who like it best." That was my mom's creation when she was an advertising copy writer. They were playing with the silliest possible ad slogan lines. I also like the silliness on the 1964 Topps #561 Dave Bennett: “The 19-year-old right handed curve-baller is just 18 years old.”

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I like having pedigree from the old school collectors, Carter, Nagy, Pollard, etc.
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My take is it depends on the provenance.

If it’s coming from my collection, it’s hard to imagine anyone cares. And might be a negative for some people. If it’s coming out of a famous collection, particularly one that isn’t viewed as infamous (like BSF), then it’s probably just a question of how much it helps. My guess is that in many cases, the premium is probably not gigantic, but does exist for the right provenance.
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Love all the examples folks have posted so far. I forgot how many “relevant” old time collectors we have. I completely agree with most, that if the collector/player is well known it helps somewhat.

Haven’t seen any David Hall T206 cards posted yet. Curious if T206 collectors put a premium on his stuff.
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I think I have a few from the Lionel Carter collection but I'm still holding out for the elusive "Leon Luckey Collection" flips. Probably not much chance of me getting a McNall/Gretzky flip.
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None of my PSA slabs have a provenance designation. I just made a note to myself, and if/when it's time for a new owner, they can check the AH archive.


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I think it is pretty cool and for memorabilia it might help especially with real collectors but for most people and for flippers I do not think it matters
For memorabilia (GU jerseys, specifically) when I see Barry Halper's name attached, it makes me tread very carefully.
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I think it’s kind of cool to have some cards with a famous collector like Buck Barker or Lionel Carter. Other than that….. doesn’t add anything for me.
There are certain collectors that will probably command a premium (Uncle Jimmy Autographs and Lionel Carter come to mind for me), but I think for most cards a pedigree has no impact on the resale value of the card
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