1962 Salada Coins

[Nokegchris]

Great info and thanks so much for the response!! Yeah I can see on the two sheets the Zimmer is gone on the second sheet. I wonder how tough it would be to build a set of 180 backs on the first 180 coins. I assume that many of the rare variations were on the first printing but also did not exist throughout the first printing (as you indicated they occurred during a test/proof run). Best to you and thanks again!!

[Nokegchris]

So I'm working on building a 180 back set ..... continuing on with the conversation above. Interestingly I found both versions of the Early Wynn coin with a 180 back. Do you think this was switched or produced that way? Also I assume all the variations not caused by the expansion draft were only produced with one back style .... like the red button vs white button, the name variation, the Oriole vs Orioles etc .... or do you think some were produced with both backs?? Also are these variations also found in the Canadian coins??? Kind of an interesting group of coins with not a lot of easily available info. I guess with "oddball" sets it runs under the radar!!!

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Nokegchris

So I'm working on building a 180 back set ..... continuing on with the conversation above. Interestingly I found both versions of the Early Wynn coin with a 180 back. Do you think this was switched or produced that way? Also I assume all the variations not caused by the expansion draft were only produced with one back style .... like the red button vs white button, the name variation, the Oriole vs Orioles etc .... or do you think some were produced with both backs?? Also are these variations also found in the Canadian coins??? Kind of an interesting group of coins with not a lot of easily available info. I guess with "oddball" sets it runs under the radar!!!

I'm pretty sure the 1962 Sherriff Canadian issue has zero variations, but anyone could put any player disc into any empty 1962 Sherriff coin and make their own 'variation'.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Nokegchris

So I'm working on building a 180 back set ..... continuing on with the conversation above. Interestingly I found both versions of the Early Wynn coin with a 180 back. Do you think this was switched or produced that way? Also I assume all the variations not caused by the expansion draft were only produced with one back style .... like the red button vs white button, the name variation, the Oriole vs Orioles etc .... or do you think some were produced with both backs?? Also are these variations also found in the Canadian coins??? Kind of an interesting group of coins with not a lot of easily available info. I guess with "oddball" sets it runs under the radar!!!

The original 21 dropped coins were available in both 180 and 200 backs. As you noted the 21 coins that took their place only come in 200 backs.

The rare coins Williams name on right, Brandt OrioleS, Bailey C level with ear and others that are all part of the early test printing only come in 180 backs.

As Cliff noted there are no variations in the Shirriff set and you will find none of the dropped 21 coins in that set.

The red buttons/white buttons gets a little confusing. The early test prints with 180 backs of those where there are variations have red buttons only. But you can find later printings of red and white buttons in 200 backs.

However the 180 back set has all red buttons and the Shirriff set has all white buttons.

Got it?

[Nokegchris]

Great info and thanks so much!!!
What do you think about the two different poses of Early Wynn coins I got both with the 180 back. Produced that way or switched by someone at some point???

[toppcat]

I will add that you can mix and match the paper inserts in shells at will.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Nokegchris

Great info and thanks so much!!!
What do you think about the two different poses of Early Wynn coins I got both with the 180 back. Produced that way or switched by someone at some point???

The Wynn with hands over his head was produced first as you can see in the sheet above with the dropped 21 coins. And the Wynn portrait is on the later sheet.

That being said since we don't know when Salada switched over from the hands over head to the portrait I guess it is possible that both Wynn could have been issued in 180 shells. However if the switch came when Salada was still producing 180 shells you would expect the hands over the head to be much scarcer than the portrait. I have not found that to be the case.

The flip side is can you find both versions in 200 shells. I believe you can which leads me to think the portrait you have in a 180 shell was most likely "flipped" as Dave notes above