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Old 05-22-2023, 01:07 PM
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"... it will always be incorrect when it comes to a man and a woman, regardless of what might have happened. You need to be man enough to take the blow. That is always the best way. Do not put your hands on a woman
I guess he and Bill Burr weren't in each other's fan club. “There is no reason to hit a woman. And I was just like, really? I could give you like 17 right off the top of my head.”

But seriously, I think people are getting tired of the reductivism. Human beings are complex. Most cannot be defined by a single incident or behavior. Jim Brown can be both an exemplary leader in the field of civil rights and a real turd in the domestic arena. There is nothing contradictory in that.

There's also the death thing. A lot of people do not like to speak ill of the dead. Some simply consider it to be in bad taste, like doing a roast for a eulogy. Of course, I think making fun of the dead is hilarious. Safe, too, since they can't sue you.
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https://andscape.com/features/jim-br...-freedom-song/

Great article by award winning columnist William Rhoden
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Wow...this thread turned quickly.
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Wow...this thread turned quickly.
+1 on that.

All I know is, I sent him a spiral notebook scrapbook someone put together in the 1960s that just happens to have a great color photo of him in it. He signed it, and returned it to me in the Priority Mail envelope I included. GRATIS. No charge. This was last year, when he was 86. Name another big name athlete who will do that.
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Guy did some awful things off the field, did some very positive things off the field, and was an amazing athlete. All are true.
Not sure he foots the bill as an amazing person.
Never underatood the whole don't speak ill of the dead thing. Seems to be the perfect time to give an honest assessment of someone's life. And not like he's around to read it anyway.

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RIP to a great man: a great activist; a great football player; a great lacrosse player.

He always stood up and stood out.

I always think about the vast difference between him and O.J.



Thank You Mr. Brown!


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People wouldn’t bring up his decades of violent assault against women if people weren’t calling his off field life inspirational and describing him as one of the finest of people, a great man. Falsehoods have a tendency to get observed.

It sucks he died, it sucks he beat the shit out of multiple women. The former fact does not bar acknowledgement of the later fact.
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+1 on that.

All i know is, i sent him a spiral notebook scrapbook someone put together in the 1960s that just happens to have a great color photo of him in it. He signed it, and returned it to me in the priority mail envelope i included. Gratis. No charge. This was last year, when he was 86. Name another big name athlete who will do that.
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