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[Peter_Spaeth]

Where do you guys rank Stirling Moss?

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Where do you guys rank Stirling Moss?

He is almost universally regarded as the best driver never to win an F1 world championship. From 1955-61, he was never lower than third in the points standings. In addition, his sportsmanship gave Mike Hawthorn the 1958 championship.

From a collector's standpoint, though, I think it is hard to get excited about him or feel that he is a must have in a collection because he never won a championship. Moss had a better overall career than F1 champions like Hawthorn, Phil Hill, Denny Hulme and Keke Rosberg, but not winning the championship at least once really hurts Moss' place in the history of the sport, IMO.

As a collector, I would rather put together a card of every F1 world champion, even the weak ones, before a card of Moss.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Thanks, that makes sense.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Any thoughts on this Fangio?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11572688573...Bk9SR5yYw5ekYg

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Any thoughts on this Fangio?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11572688573...Bk9SR5yYw5ekYg

That is a viable Fangio rookie card. I don't know if there was a find or what, but there have been lots of Chocolat L'Aiglon Fangio cards hitting the market over the past year or so. Up until a year or so ago, I rarely seen that card. Lately, both Goldin and eBay have had a steady stream of that card.

Other than some super obscure Fangio cards or discs that will sell for $1,000+, that is just about the earliest mainstream Fangio to have (AFAIK). He does have some other 1952 options, but I think the Chocolat L'Aiglon is the best looking. As for the particular card you linked to, if you are patient, you will be able to pick up a cheaper copy on eBay at auction.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

That is a viable Fangio rookie card. I don't know if there was a find or what, but there have been lots of Chocolat L'Aiglon Fangio cards hitting the market over the past year or so. Up until a year or so ago, I rarely seen that card. Lately, both Goldin and eBay have had a steady stream of that card.

Other than some super obscure Fangio cards or discs that will sell for $1,000+, that is just about the earliest mainstream Fangio to have (AFAIK). He does have some other 1952 options, but I think the Chocolat L'Aiglon is the best looking. As for the particular card you linked to, if you are patient, you will be able to pick up a cheaper copy on eBay at auction.

Maybe someone is reprinting them. Happens with soccer I understand. I guess they would tend to be higher grade though if that were the case?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Wow.
https://goldin.co/item/1951-editrice...a-ex-mt-66v194

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe someone is reprinting them. Happens with soccer I understand. I guess they would tend to be higher grade though if that were the case?

I don't know, maybe? If that is the case, a lot of them are slipping through PSA and SGC. I know any card can be reprinted, but a Juan Manuel Fangio card just seems like a relatively minimal amount of return if someone was trying to scam.