Help with Authenticity - Ruth, Mantle, Mays

[MikeGarcia]

..The graded cards can be examined in hand ? Do you know to look for "frosted" reseals ?..
..On the raw cards though , if a particular issue is never found centered but you are suddenly offered a fantastic group of centered ( but raw ) cards , from that issue , well that should send up a large oversized red-colored flag , one would think ??

..keep us posted though , since we all love these questions from new members.

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[redauto5]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..The graded cards can be examined in hand ? Do you know to look for "frosted" reseals ?..

..On the raw cards though , if a particular issue is never found centered but you are suddenly offered a fantastic group of centered ( but raw ) cards , from that issue , well that should send up a large oversized red-colored flag , one would think ??



..keep us posted though , since we all love these questions from new members.



..

Thanks for the response. Yes I can examine everything in hand including the graded cards. I'll do some research on frosted reseals. I will also remove the '52 Mathews from the screw down and get better pictures of it. I'm currently doing research on fakes so hopefully I'll have a decent knowledge base before I get there.

VERY good point on the centering, I should've thought of that. I've been in and out of the hobby since the mid '80's but never had much vintage.

Your insight is valued and appreciated, I'm getting a crash course right now and it's fun and exciting to do so.

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[swarmee]

What city do you live in? If you're in the Florida Panhandle, I can probably meet you and review the cards in person. Others in other parts of the country may be able to as well.
I won't be buying, just verifying authenticity. (I'm mjohnatgt over on Blowout, FWIW)

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Originally Posted by swarmee

What city do you live in? If you're in the Florida Panhandle, I can probably meet you and review the cards in person. Others in other parts of the country may be able to as well.

I won't be buying, just verifying authenticity. (I'm mjohnatgt over on Blowout, FWIW)

Thanks for the offer, very generous! I'm in San Antonio, TX. If anyone is close and willing to help in any way maybe we can work something out.

I decided to start watching Breakout Cards YouTube collection to continue my education. Loving it.

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[irv]

It's hard to tell with your pics and the fact the cards are in cubes, but to me the 52 Topps Mays looks way off.
Same, but not as bad, is the Mathews card.

Curious. Are those cards in recessed cubes or just flat surfaced cubes? If real, and depending on how tight the cubes were screwed down, and assuming they're real, they may only get an "A" if graded due to them being flattened/squished if the cubes are not recessed?

The 56 Mantle also looks suspect to me as well but I can offer no opinion on the others.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by irv

It's hard to tell with your pics and the fact the cards are in cubes, but to me the 52 Topps Mays looks way off.

Same, but not as bad, is the Mathews card.



Curious. Are those cards in recessed cubes or just flat surfaced cubes? If real, and depending on how tight the cubes were screwed down, and assuming they're real, they may only get an "A" if graded due to them being flattened/squished if the cubes are not recessed?



The 56 Mantle also looks suspect to me as well but I can offer no opinion on the others.



Good luck.

Thanks. I think they are flat surface cubes, and yes I've heard PSA especially gives a lot of these cards out of old screw downs A's because the card has been compressed and is now thinner than originally. Does SGC do this as well?

I'm assuming both Mantles, the Mays and the Ruth are fakes at this point. I'm curious on the Mathews, and will remove both the Mays and the Mathews from the screw downs and compare them. The surface feel, smell, card width. He has a few other low grade '52 commons I can compare the Mathews too as well.

It may be safest to assume all the authentic cards in screw downs will only grade A, but man that's a blow to any offer I give him and I want to be fair. Regardless, I'm having a blast trying to figure all this out!

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[irv]

Originally Posted by redauto5

Thanks. I think they are flat surface cubes, and yes I've heard PSA especially gives a lot of these cards out of old screw downs A's because the card has been compressed and is now thinner than originally. Does SGC do this as well?

I'm assuming both Mantles, the Mays and the Ruth are fakes at this point. I'm curious on the Mathews, and will remove both the Mays and the Mathews from the screw downs and compare them. The surface feel, smell, card width. He has a few other low grade '52 commons I can compare the Mathews too as well.

It may be safest to assume all the authentic cards in screw downs will only grade A, but man that's a blow to any offer I give him and I want to be fair. Regardless, I'm having a blast trying to figure all this out!

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I don't know for sure, but I would assume?

Hopefully Mays and Mathews are real. Both look really nicely centered and that is hard to find, especially with the Mathews. Pricey card, as is Mays.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by redauto5

Thanks for the offer, very generous! I'm in San Antonio, TX.

I will be going on a business trip to San Antonio this summer to visit the AF bases there, so I might be able to help. Although I'm sure there are a ton of board members that could meet you sooner.
You could also take them into a local trading card shop or show (many people here go to the Dallas show) and would inspect them for you in person for free. Sometimes the card graders will be at that show, and Beckett is headquartered in Dallas and could get your cards back same day.