Ebay seller pcbcomicsandsports trimming cards and bypassing authentication

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

They also manipulate their scans to conceal creases and other issues, including not paying people who consigned with them. They've been around for ages under many different aliases and have been discussed here many times over the years. I believe one of their many former usernames was peppercia. Avoid like the plague.

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Yet they have 99.9 percent feedback or something close. I love ebay.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yet they have 99.9 percent feedback or something close. I love ebay.

eBay feedback has been completely worthless for a LONG time. It makes me LOL every time someone make a big deal about their feedback.

[Vintage Vern]

I fell victim to them recently. They sold a bunch of W573 gave them all very high grades. Mine wasn't close to the grade given. They sure doctored the photo. They also wouldn't respond to multiple messages I just took the risk. They also start all them at .79 and had a reserve they say nothing about until you bid. They also shill bid. Every auction was driven up by 1 bidder then after a certain point another took over mostly on the higher end cards. It was so obvious. I'm not totally disappointed but not nearly as happy either.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

I fell victim to them recently. They sold a bunch of W573 gave them all very high grades. Mine wasn't close to the grade given. They sure doctored the photo. They also wouldn't respond to multiple messages I just took the risk. They also start all them at .79 and had a reserve they say nothing about until you bid. They also shill bid. Every auction was driven up by 1 bidder then after a certain point another took over mostly on the higher end cards. It was so obvious. I'm not totally disappointed but not nearly as happy either.

Open a not as described case?

[irv]

When I first saw the 52 Topps cards, especially the highs, I became interested but immediately thought these cards looked short to me.
Glad I trusted my gut but this thread also helped me to confirm my eyes weren't playing tricks on me.

[Chris-Counts]

I saw that recent auction of 1953 Bowmans, and every star card looked trimmed. The Mantle and Musial looked terrible, yet went for crazy prices. I can't say what's worse: a seller who blatantly sells trimmed cards he calls near mint, buyers who throw big bucks at such obvious altered cards thinking their going to get a high grade, or eBay, which clearly doesn't give a hoot, and makes it nearly impossible to report this nonsense (I tried unsuccessfully to do so).

[RCMcKenzie]

I was the 2nd underbidder on the 1952 Topps Solly Hemus. I bid 44.44 and it sold for $58. The one that got away.

I don't understand the prices today. I was watching a T206 Matty earlier that sold for 9 clams. Who has 9 dimes for a baseball card? I didn't leave the hobby. The hobby left me.

[Tere1071]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

I saw that recent auction of 1953 Bowmans, and every star card looked trimmed. The Mantle and Musial looked terrible, yet went for crazy prices. I can't say what's worse: a seller who blatantly sells trimmed cards he calls near mint, buyers who throw big bucks at such obvious altered cards thinking their going to get a high grade, or eBay, which clearly doesn't give a hoot, and makes it nearly impossible to report this nonsense (I tried unsuccessfully to do so).

I have bid and won some 1953 Bowmans from them off of eBay. I didn't find any problems with trimming, but I can tell you and everyone else- what I received sure didn't look as nice as the posted image. I received refunds, but it was the disappointment thinking that I had acquired upgrades for my set.

Phil aka Tere1071

Complete 1953 Bowman Color, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, and 1975 Topps Baseball sets under revision as the budget and wife allows

Under construction:
1970 Topps Baseball - missing over 100 cards, mostly after #450 and the three insert sets

1971 Topps Coins- 107/153

1974 Topps Baseball Washington variations

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I love ebay.

I've said this before and elsewhere, but a large part of the problem is eBay never having bothered to either become or employ category experts on anything which is sold on their site. The most recent evidence of which - redundant and time consuming "authentication" of many cards and other items over a certain dollar value, many of which of course have already been professionally graded.

But yes, eBay feedback is an antiquated joke at this point. They removed the seller's ability to leave legit feedback for buyers in 2008. It's gone steadily downhill from there.

[Leon]

Names, names, names......

What I don't understand is the lack of reading comprehension on this forum. Is there anyone that doesn't know what this means?

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

I am going to start putting names next to posts and will be giving infractions. I am getting tired of it and suspensions will happen after the 2nd warning. Thanks
.

[Svabinsky78]

They sold two R315 Hubbell cards in one month. If you look at the listing photo...it's the identical photo, for both listings (it has a yellowish streak in the middle ). And these two are not the only listings of this card. I saw them list this card at least one other time, using the same exact photo.....

Pcb must have quite the stash of R315s.

When it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

[Leon]

Didn't even read the post above this one? I need a pay raise. SMH
Infraction given.

Originally Posted by Svabinsky78

They sold two R315 Hubbell cards in one month. If you look at the listing photo...it's the identical photo, for both listings (it has a yellowish streak in the middle ). And these two are not the only listings of this card. I saw them list this card at least one other time, using the same exact photo.....

Pcb must have quite the stash of R315s.

When it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

[Svabinsky78]

Name is Fil Reich.

Another PCB R315 Hubbell listing popped up today. Just stating a fact. The photo in the listing looks very similar to the photos in the two aforementioned sold listings.

[Snowman]

This dude is constantly listing trimmed cards

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Leon

Didn't even read the post above this one? I need a pay raise. SMH
Infraction given.

Judge Haller: The next words out of your mouth better be ‘guilty’ or ‘not guilty.’ If I hear anything other than ‘guilty’ or ‘not guilty,’ you’ll be in contempt. I don’t even want to hear you clear your throat. Now, how do your clients plead?”

Vinny Gambini: “I think I get the point.”

Judge Haller: “No, I don’t think you do. You’re now in contempt of court. Would you like to go for two counts of contempt?”

[Exhibitman]

It is the same card. This seller has been peddling this trimmed Hubbell RC for months. He finally auctioned it off and my guess is that the buyer realized it was trimmed and sent it back. BTW, he slips in some extra cards to avoid the eBay authentication program.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Leon

Names, names, names......

What I don't understand is the lack of reading comprehension on this forum. Is there anyone that doesn't know what this means?

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

This rule isn’t well thought out. One day someone is going to get hurt…. Proper moderation doesn’t require names.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

This rule isn’t well thought out. One day someone is going to get hurt…. Proper moderation doesn’t require names.

In America there is also the belief that everyone has a right to know who says things about them. This rule is actually very well thought out and as such it's fine.

The best message boards are the ones where the posters are known.

Regards
Rich

PS My name is out there on this board for 20 years now without an issue

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

In America there is also the belief that everyone has a right to know who says things about them. This rule is actually very well thought out and as such it's fine.

The best message boards are the ones where the posters are known.

Regards
Rich

PS My name is out there on this board for 20 years now without an issue

I have been on message boards since the advent of message boards….. this is the first time my name has been out in the open across many hobbies.

Proper moderation is key here. If post #1 from a new member attacks a dealer it’s suspect…. A 20 year member with 1000 posts giving a heads up about possible thievery is most likely not.

Regards,

Chris

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

I have been on message boards since the advent of message boards….. this is the first time my name has been out in the open across many hobbies.

Proper moderation is key here. If post #1 from a new member attacks a dealer it’s suspect…. A 20 year member with 1000 posts giving a heads up about possible thievery is most likely not.

Regards,

Chris

I think we need consistent rules regardless of how many posts you have.

One of the problems with the internet is people hiding behind anonymity to make comments that they wouldn't make if their names were attached to them.

I am a bit confused as to how you think people listing their names will lead to "someone getting hurt".

If someone is afraid of getting hurt, they can refrain from making the comment that they think could get them hurt.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

I have been on message boards since the advent of message boards….. this is the first time my name has been out in the open across many hobbies.



Proper moderation is key here. If post #1 from a new member attacks a dealer it’s suspect…. A 20 year member with 1000 posts giving a heads up about possible thievery is most likely not.



Regards,



Chris

It's a simple rule. I don't see how allowing anonymous accusations would be helpful.

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[G1911]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

This rule isn’t well thought out. One day someone is going to get hurt…. Proper moderation doesn’t require names.

I’d rather not have 1 or 2 specific individuals here get my personal information for exactly this reason. All it takes is one angry nutter off his meds one day one time for something to happen. The odds are not high though.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I’d rather not have 1 or 2 specific individuals here get my personal information for exactly this reason. All it takes is one angry nutter off his meds one day one time for something to happen. The odds are not high though.

LOL, you have obviously not run across bat $hit carzy Matthew yet. He has had several different accounts on here and probably has a few going now.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, you have obviously not run across bat $hit carzy Matthew yet. He has had several different accounts on here and probably has a few going now.

I had one Matthew go ballistic when I didn't juice the pump he wanted to juice but I suspect this is a different Matthew. Have we had a true stalker or assault case? The odds aren't high but it all it takes is one. I used to shut up to remain compliant until something got the rule on my account, so it's the boards fault I run my mouth now