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Old 05-03-2023, 06:46 PM
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Here's a scorecard from Nolan Ryan's 1st complete game. In his very next start, he'd strike out 14 batters!
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Old 05-03-2023, 09:41 PM
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The search is the life, isn't it...kind of?
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Old 05-03-2023, 11:27 PM
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Keeping the Nolan Ryan theme, here's his first career start, with his first career decision.
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Old 05-04-2023, 04:58 AM
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Keeping the Nolan Ryan theme, here's his first career start, with his first career decision.
Good one, Doug!
Note that Nolan wore uniform #34, not #30 in 1966.
When he pitched in 1968, as a rookie with the Mets, he started wearing #30.
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Keeping the Nolan Ryan theme, here's his first career start, with his first career decision.
Another great scorecard, Doug! Ryan got shelled in the first inning of the first game of a doubleheader, with the recorded attendance being less than 15,000. Again, you gotta wonder how many of these scorecards survived! The attendance for the card I posted for his first complete game was less than 10,000. I'm sure more are out there, but I certainly haven't seen any other examples of either!
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... with the recorded attendance being less than 15,000. Again, you gotta wonder how many of these scorecards survived! The attendance for the card I posted for his first complete game was less than 10,000. I'm sure more are out there, but I certainly haven't seen any other examples of either!
One of the reasons I enjoy scored programs / scorecards is that each is a 1 of 1, to use the lingo of the modern collector. There are probably more of them out there somewhere, but each will use a different language to tell the same story.

Here is the same, yet different program that 5Tool posted previously from Nolan's first career win
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Keeping the Nolan Ryan theme, here's his first career start, with his first career decision.
Hi Doug,
Here is an extremely rare ticket stub that is a match to your scored program to Nolan's 1st ML start game in 1966.
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Here is an extremely rare ticket stub that is a match to your scored program to Nolan's 1st ML start game in 1966.
Every scorecard deserves a matching ticket whenever possible!
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Every scorecard deserves a matching ticket whenever possible!
With any post of a Ryan game there's a good chance of Scott having a ticket...
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That looks super nice, Doug...

But with those tightly cropped images, I am left wondering about the background of this program.
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My First Hockey post a 1926 Stanley Cup Final program from 1926. It was the last year a non NHL team played in the cup Finals. Babe Siebert and the Montreal Maroons won their first cup 3 games to 1. They beat the defending champion Victoria team
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Very cool program, Jonathan. I live in Victoria and less than a mile from the site of the Patrick Arena where the Cougars played. Following the 1926 season they became the Detroit Cougars and eventually the Detroit Red Wings. The attached snaps are of a commemorative cairn on the grounds of Oak Bay Secondary across the street from the old rink. The other is a display at the municipal hall to which I contributed some old hockey postcards. The Cougars remain the only team from British Columbia to have won the Stanley Cup. Still waiting on the Canucks.
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That looks super nice, Doug...

But with those tightly cropped images, I am left wondering about the background of this program.
Well, it's a cardboard flat box used to ship, of course.
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Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

Tommy Davis, starting at third base and batting fifth, struck out his first two times at the plate. In “Stranger to the Game,” Gibson said, “I had been striking him out with sliders low and away, and I seemed to have the edge on him.”

Gibson was on a roll, having retired seven consecutive batters, when Davis led off in the seventh inning.

“I had noticed that, as I continued to pitch him outside, Davis was gradually sneaking up toward the plate,” Gibson said. “He was practically on top of the plate, and so, out of duty, I buzzed him inside with a fastball.

“I don’t know if he was setting me up, but he must have been looking for the fastball on his ribs, because he backed off a step, turned on that thing, and crushed it over the left field fence.”

In the book “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “I think he was just waiting for me to bring one inside, and I was still young and dumb enough to oblige him.”

Cardinals catcher Hal Smith told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “The pitch Davis hit wasn’t even a strike.”

The home run into the bleacher seats in left-center broke a streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings for Gibson and was all Koufax needed. He pitched a three-hit shutout for a 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game against the Cardinals.

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

Through eight innings, the Dodgers’ only hits were two singles by ex-Cardinal Wally Moon. Koufax limited the Cardinals to five singles.

The game was scoreless when Davis batted in the bottom of the ninth with one out and none on.

“Smart guy that I am, I remembered that Davis had beaten me the year before when I stopped pitching him outside and came in with a fastball,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.”

“I thought, ‘Now, he remembers that I remember that pitch inside, and so he’s thinking that there’s no way I’m coming inside again in this situation. Just to cross him up, I’m going to do it again.’

“So, I threw the fastball inside again, and goddamn if he didn’t hit it out again to beat me. I learned right then that the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is try to be too smart.”

With the count 1-and-0, Davis told the Post-Dispatch, he was looking for a fastball. “Gibson had been getting me out on breaking stuff,” Davis said. “He was throwing the fastball when he got behind.”

Davis’ walkoff home run deep into the bullpen in left gave Koufax and the Dodgers another 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game without allowing a walk.

“There are instances, as Tommy Davis taught me twice over, when a pitcher can think too much,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.” “That was a hard lesson for me.”

In “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “It was a textbook case of overthinking. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Worse yet, I went against my better judgment. When I started winning big was when I stopped doing stuff like that.”

Doug, you have this one?
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Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

Tommy Davis, starting at third base and batting fifth, struck out his first two times at the plate. In “Stranger to the Game,” Gibson said, “I had been striking him out with sliders low and away, and I seemed to have the edge on him.”

Gibson was on a roll, having retired seven consecutive batters, when Davis led off in the seventh inning.

“I had noticed that, as I continued to pitch him outside, Davis was gradually sneaking up toward the plate,” Gibson said. “He was practically on top of the plate, and so, out of duty, I buzzed him inside with a fastball.

“I don’t know if he was setting me up, but he must have been looking for the fastball on his ribs, because he backed off a step, turned on that thing, and crushed it over the left field fence.”

In the book “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “I think he was just waiting for me to bring one inside, and I was still young and dumb enough to oblige him.”

Cardinals catcher Hal Smith told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “The pitch Davis hit wasn’t even a strike.”

The home run into the bleacher seats in left-center broke a streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings for Gibson and was all Koufax needed. He pitched a three-hit shutout for a 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game against the Cardinals.

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

Through eight innings, the Dodgers’ only hits were two singles by ex-Cardinal Wally Moon. Koufax limited the Cardinals to five singles.

The game was scoreless when Davis batted in the bottom of the ninth with one out and none on.

“Smart guy that I am, I remembered that Davis had beaten me the year before when I stopped pitching him outside and came in with a fastball,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.”

“I thought, ‘Now, he remembers that I remember that pitch inside, and so he’s thinking that there’s no way I’m coming inside again in this situation. Just to cross him up, I’m going to do it again.’

“So, I threw the fastball inside again, and goddamn if he didn’t hit it out again to beat me. I learned right then that the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is try to be too smart.”

With the count 1-and-0, Davis told the Post-Dispatch, he was looking for a fastball. “Gibson had been getting me out on breaking stuff,” Davis said. “He was throwing the fastball when he got behind.”

Davis’ walkoff home run deep into the bullpen in left gave Koufax and the Dodgers another 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game without allowing a walk.

“There are instances, as Tommy Davis taught me twice over, when a pitcher can think too much,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.” “That was a hard lesson for me.”

In “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “It was a textbook case of overthinking. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Worse yet, I went against my better judgment. When I started winning big was when I stopped doing stuff like that.”

Doug, you have this one?
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GREAT story and a neat scored program, Rick! Love it
Thanks for sharing.

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GREAT story and a neat scored program, Rick! Love it
Thanks for sharing.
+1.great background stories

Thank You for sharing
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Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

...

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

...

Doug, you have this one?
I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

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I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

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I love the cover art on that 1962 program, Doug!
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I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

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Thought you probably did have it Doug, but was hoping I could inch you closer to your goal. Unfortunately, that is my only scored program of a Koufax game.

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I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

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