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Old 04-28-2023, 07:47 PM
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This is why my collection is all PSA 1-5 quality. In 25 years, when all of the low grade cards are altered/doctored to be PSA 7+, my low grade cards will have unlimited potential, much like the allure of an unopened pack today.
I have sold several Authentic and low grade cards in PSA slabs to see them show back up in a new holder. The exact same card magically being a little nicer and one to 2 grades higher. Collecting lower grade cards does not mean they haven't already been worked on.
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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That guy is a poor excuse for a human being with no moral character whatsoever.
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Old 04-28-2023, 08:56 PM
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I wonder why he's posting this video? Wasn't he previously denying the card trimming allegations? And wasn't he allegedly being investigated by the FBI during that whole trimming scandal investigation that ended up going nowhere?

I wonder if PSA and SGC cut him off or something like that, and this is his retaliation? Because he cross-posted this video on Instagram, and he tagged Nat Turner in the comments, saying "this is how all of your vintage cards got high grades".
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I have sold several Authentic and low grade cards in PSA slabs to see them show back up in a new holder. The exact same card magically being a little nicer and one to 2 grades higher. Collecting lower grade cards does not mean they haven't already been worked on.
Yes, but it’s a far lower loss if it is found out to be manipulated over a high grade card. I try to get low grade with solid eye appeal for this reason. Not because it’s not possible that it has been worked on but because it’s much closer to the floor if anything has.
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I think Mathis is just angry and bitter ….he is one of the few guys to have owned a high grade 52 Mantle and not make money on it over the past 20 years. He had a great card, a PSA 9 and he made no money and who bought it flipped it real fast and made $3 million!
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That Tik Tok video makes card doctoring look very easy.
It should make anyone who is buying high grade cards think twice (or more).
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He did make it look easy, but he also was starting with a card that was a little over standard size so after trimming some off, it just involved trying to get rid of the evidence that it was recently trimmed. For cards that are already at standard size, I would imagine there's a lot more work to trim them then to get them back to the correct size while not making it obvious.
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He did make it look easy, but he also was starting with a card that was a little over standard size so after trimming some off, it just involved trying to get rid of the evidence that it was recently trimmed. For cards that are already at standard size, I would imagine there's a lot more work to trim them then to get them back to the correct size while not making it obvious.
Some card doctors will press out cards before trimming them. Also, though, countless cards are a bit short of standard size but nevertheless get slabbed. I think you can microtrim with relative impunity.
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That Tik Tok video makes card doctoring look very easy.
It should make anyone who is buying high grade cards think twice (or more).
Certainly a very valid concern for many, but I'm more worried about how many idiots with a razor blade and some wax paper this is going to inspire.
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It’s things like this clip pretty much bashing calling PSA out that assure we aren't going to be getting anything higher then a 7 on Pre 1960’s cards. This video plays a part in us getting hammered on Grades.

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Guess psa and himself aren't pals anymore. Seems like a guy who wouldn't last a minute in the old neighborhood without an elder giving him "one off the head"
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It’s things like this clip pretty much basing calling PSA out that assure we aren't going to be getting anything higher then a 7 on Pre 1960’s cards. This video plays a part in us getting hammered on Grades.
Ya, there's no such thing as a gem mint vintage card. If you think you found one, you've probably been duped.
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