Jacob deGrom most Ks in first 200 games

[G1911]

Let's see if he can pitch 162 innings for the 5th time of his career.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

Let's see if he can pitch 162 innings for the 5th time of his career.

doesnt matter..as long as he can pitch around 50 innings in the playoffs...

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

doesnt matter..as long as he can pitch around 50 innings in the playoffs...

The Texas Rangers were 68 - 94 in their 4th place AL West finish a year ago.
If deGrom can help them reach the playoffs it would be a pretty big deal.

Winning some games in the playoffs would be icing on the cake.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

doesnt matter..as long as he can pitch around 50 innings in the playoffs...

With that .420 winning percentage last year I'm failing to see how the Rangers are such a shoe in they don't need DeGrom before the playoffs.

[packs]

I’m pretty sure he’s trying to make some hyperbolic point about pitchers only needing to be good in the playoffs but I’m not sure where he’s going with it. Why wouldn’t you want your big money pitcher to be good in the playoffs? And why would a team who isn’t a contender at all sign a big money pitcher with 50 innings they’re unlikely to play in mind?

[mrreality68]

We all agree Degrom is a great pitcher when healthy and on the mound.

Between spring training and thru the first 20 games he has had several Health scares. Luckily minor but when Healthy he is one of the best.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

I’m pretty sure he’s trying to make some hyperbolic point about pitchers only needing to be good in the playoffs but I’m not sure where he’s going with it. Why wouldn’t you want your big money pitcher to be good in the playoffs? And why would a team who isn’t a contender at all sign a big money pitcher with 50 innings they’re unlikely to play in mind?

Well Yu Darvish hasnt done much in the playoff games...but been pitched a lot last year

rather have a guy pitch Ohtani type innings for the season and then pitch 50 in playoffs...then someone dominate regular season then lose first playoff series

the point is ...years ago there were only a few playoff teams...now you can have a large margin of error to still get into the playoffs.....unlike many sports..one dominate player, the pitcher can give you a very high chance on his own to win you that key playoff game to advance on or to win a series etc...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

With that .420 winning percentage last year I'm failing to see how the Rangers are such a shoe in they don't need DeGrom before the playoffs.

may only need to be close to .500 to make playoffs....

[G1911]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

may only need to be close to .500 to make playoffs....

I am not seeing why one would assume a team that was a .420 club last year is such a shoe in for the playoffs that they don’t need DeGrom during the regular season. Bottom seed teams sub .500 that manage to get in are on the very border and need players to actually play.

[D. Bergin]

I think we're missing the elephant in the room here. Expanded Playoffs or not, who on earth pitches 50 innings in the playoffs nowadays, let alone Degrom?

He'd need almost 10 starts, and they sure as hell aren't going to throw somebody like him out there on short rest.

[mrreality68]

agreed the likely hood of any pitcher pitching that many innings is most likely not going to happen.
For Degrom it most likely would not happen because they would even if Texas made the playoffs they would want to keep Degrom healthy thru out and would be load managing him

[G1911]

Originally Posted by G1911

Let's see if he can pitch 162 innings for the 5th time of his career.

The answer quickly turned to a clear "No". Shock of the year.

$185,000,000 contract for a 35 year old pitcher who can't pitch more than a few games a year, and they didn't get insurance on the contract. Brilliant move.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by G1911

The answer quickly turned to a clear "No". Shock of the year.

$185,000,000 contract for a 35 year old pitcher who can't pitch more than a few games a year, and they didn't get insurance on the contract. Brilliant move.

At that price with his history foolish to not put a minimum innings pitched clause in there.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by G1911

The answer quickly turned to a clear "No". Shock of the year.

$185,000,000 contract for a 35 year old pitcher who can't pitch more than a few games a year, and they didn't get insurance on the contract. Brilliant move.

they might have insurance but i am not sure if they do or not
also if they could it was probably very expensive with Degroms health history and I am not sure if he was even insurable regardless Texas knew what they were walking into and they took a gamble and sadly for the first 2 years of that contract(this year and next year) it looks like a total loss.

And it is a shame since they are having such a good year so far

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

they might have insurance but i am not sure if they do or not
also if they could it was probably very expensive with Degroms health history and I am not sure if he was even insurable regardless Texas knew what they were walking into and they took a gamble and sadly for the first 2 years of that contract(this year and next year) it looks like a total loss.

And it is a shame since they are having such a good year so far

According to Fansided, the Rangers did not insure deGrom's contract but there is a clause that if he needed TJ surgery in 2023 or 2026, the Rangers get a team option year added for 2028. Its a strange option since deGrom will be 40.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Jim65

According to Fansided, the Rangers did not insure deGrom's contract but there is a clause that if he needed TJ surgery in 2023 or 2026, the Rangers get a team option year added for 2028. Its a strange option since deGrom will be 40.

wow thanks for the info

and wow that is funny that if he had Tommy John Surgery they would want the option at that age and with that Heath history.

I just hope he recovers and comes back strong.

Such an amazing pitcher when healthy

[Peter_Spaeth]

Given his history and age, I would charge a HUGE premium to insure that contract.

[clydepepper]

deGrom's story has been compared to Stephen Strasburg's.

But, at least deGrom has a chance to come back, albeit small.
Strasburg's nerve damage keeps him from having a normal active life.

On Pardon-the-Interruption last night, Michael Willbon reminded us all that the pitching motion is unnatural and is why so many pitchers endure so much 'down time' with injuries associated with their deliveries.

It was enjoyable to watch Strasburg and deGrom when they dominated, but, alas, their time is most probably past.


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