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Old 04-23-2023, 03:25 PM
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I am certain it’s real. Clemente is one of the few autographs I feel safe assessing authenticity myself. The reason for my post was the hammer price not the authenticity or slab. I was surprised by the final bid as cuts can generally be had for 2K even in PSA slabs. I didn’t see anything about this particular cut that justified the price. I have picked up a signed Clemente photo for half of what this cut realized.
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Maybe the MINT 9 designation? Price is astromical
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Maybe the MINT 9 designation?
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When I buy autographs, I pay no premium for a high number grade. But a lot of people for sure do.
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It's perfectly genuine, and to me worth less than $1500. I feel that might even be a bit generous.

I could care less about the signature grade in this or any other instance. Do you have working eyes, or even one functioning eye? Congratulations, you have what it takes to grade autographs.
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It's perfectly genuine, and to me worth less than $1500. I feel that might even be a bit generous.

I could care less about the signature grade in this or any other instance. Do you have working eyes, or even one functioning eye? Congratulations, you have what it takes to grade autographs.
I wish! They give a blind "Willie mays" in scrunched sharpie a 10, but a bold vintage ballpoint a 9, same with Aaron. Their auto grades barely make sense. 6 is barely legible...SIX! Show me a psa 1 auto grade, please
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Ted,

It's all just further fuel for the argument, isn't it?

I'd much rather have a gorgeous, career-era fountain pen signature than an infirmed, end-of-life piece signed for the collectibles circuit any day. Who cares if it's a "8"?
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this sold yesterday for 4800
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=140039
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It's all just further fuel for the argument, isn't it?

I'd much rather have a gorgeous, career-era fountain pen signature than an infirmed, end-of-life piece signed for the collectibles circuit any day. Who cares if it's a "8"?
Oh absolutely agree. 1000%
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I wish! They give a blind "Willie mays" in scrunched sharpie a 10, but a bold vintage ballpoint a 9, same with Aaron. Their auto grades barely make sense. 6 is barely legible...SIX! Show me a psa 1 auto grade, please
I have one that might qualify. A Bob Cousy photo with a signature so faded it might not even scan. But it is there.
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I wish! They give a blind "Willie mays" in scrunched sharpie a 10, but a bold vintage ballpoint a 9, same with Aaron. Their auto grades barely make sense. 6 is barely legible...SIX! Show me a psa 1 auto grade, please
I've always thought the autograph grading service is complete nonsense...laughable really. It seems that the only standard that qualifies an autograph for the 10 grade is:
"Yep, the pen worked."

And then you have dealers/sellers who jack the price way out of proportion on these 10 graded signatures, and "investors" who eat that stuff up (but probably know very little) who pay these upcharged gouges...ridiculous.

When I run across an autographed card I need for a set/project I'm working on, I just cringe when it has an autograph grade on the slab. Those stupid grades mean only one thing - "Bend over Kevin."
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