What is the highest ever graded Old Judge card?

[BobC]

Per the SGC pop reports, they've graded five SGC 9's, and one single SGC 10 card of Charles Alcott. I don't know how you compare SGC to PSA in the grading of OJ cards, but based on this, unless there's a PSA 10 out there somewhere, it would seem to me that this Charles Alcott SGC 10 card should rank as the highest graded OJ ever, at least for now. Would like to actually see the card in person to verify that it deserves this grade though.

[G1911]

I'm going to doubt the top POP's really meet the criteria and would help to be that condition by reasonable hobbyists if cracked out.

Here's one of the PSA 9's.

[canjond]

The one pulled from the pack was an SGC 98, right?

[ricktmd]

I used to own this card. I know it's not the highest but a high-grade Old Judge and worth showing.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by G1911

I'm going to doubt the top POP's really meet the criteria and would help to be that condition by reasonable hobbyists if cracked out.

Here's one of the PSA 9's.

This would be a 4 at best today lol

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Snowman

This would be a 4 at best today lol

Do they use entirely different criteria for grading Old Judges because, yeah, that looks like about a 4 or 5 to me.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by BobC

Per the SGC pop reports, they've graded five SGC 9's, and one single SGC 10 card of Charles Alcott. I don't know how you compare SGC to PSA in the grading of OJ cards, but based on this, unless there's a PSA 10 out there somewhere, it would seem to me that this Charles Alcott SGC 10 card should rank as the highest graded OJ ever, at least for now. Would like to actually see the card in person to verify that it deserves this grade though.

I've seen the Alcott card, it's incredible looking. If I remember correctly, it was pulled from a pack, then right to the grader. I thought about purchasing it at one point. The asking price was basically all of the money I had. I sold an old car, so money was just burning a hole in my pocket. Alcott was also high on my OJ wantlist because he's the only Mansfield player in the set. More of his cards show him with St Louis.

[oldjudge]

I think the Alcott was one of the most overgraded cards ever. It was pulled directly from a pack by Alan Rosen, I believe, but it was heavily stained on the back from the cigarettes. Technical grade should have been a lot lower in my opinion.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I think the Alcott was one of the most overgraded cards ever. It was pulled directly from a pack by Alan Rosen, I believe, but it was heavily stained on the back from the cigarettes. Technical grade should have been a lot lower in my opinion.

And exactly why I said I'd like to actually see the card in person to determine if it deserved the grade given to it. I'd take Jay's opinion on the condition of an OJ card over any TPG grader, period!

But if you're talking just pure highest TPG graded OJ ever, it seems that this SGC 10 Alcott card is the highest graded one out there, which appears to answer the question the OP was asking.

[Fred]

I've got a few SGC 10 graded OJs... oh, that's when 10 really meant 1.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I think the Alcott was one of the most overgraded cards ever. It was pulled directly from a pack by Alan Rosen, I believe, but it was heavily stained on the back from the cigarettes. Technical grade should have been a lot lower in my opinion.

This could definitely be true. I only saw the front I believe, which was incredible looking. I doubt if I saw the back looking as bad as you describe, I would have been interested at all in it. I probably saw it in 2002, so it's been a while. I know someone bought it not long after I saw it too, because I wrote asking about it and it was gone. I could be wrong, but I believe BMW Cards had it when I saw it.

[G1911]

Anyone have the pics?

[Lorewalker]

Apparently not the highest graded OJ but a key from the set, https://goldinauctions.com/1887_N172...-LOT86957.aspx

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Apparently not the highest graded OJ but a key from the set, https://goldinauctions.com/1887_N172...-LOT86957.aspx

This one at least looks better than the other PSA 9 shown in this thread.

[Fred]

alcott hands on hips Mansfield SGC98.jpg

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Fred

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Thank you!