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Old 04-09-2023, 06:06 PM
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Default Blue Kinder

It was a blue Christmas for Red Sox fans after the immensely popular Ellis Kinder was sold to the Red Birds in December 1955. Topps captured the feeling across New England in a limited edition “blue Kinder” collectible in 1956.
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Old 04-09-2023, 07:09 PM
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Eric — Cardinal fans speak of that waiver wire deal with the same reverence as the Broglo for Brock deal
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It was a blue Christmas for Red Sox fans after the immensely popular Ellis Kinder was sold to the Red Birds in December 1955. Topps captured the feeling across New England in a limited edition “blue Kinder” collectible in 1956.
Is this is a confirmed reoccurring print defect?
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Old 04-10-2023, 06:43 AM
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Shane- to determine that just review the listings for Kinder for the next five years. If another one does not service in that time I think you can take it off your list
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Picked this up at a show yesterday:

Untitled by Brett Blair, on Flickr

I realize it's off-centered,but do you think the print mishap would take down the grade as well if I sent it in? It's a pretty sharp card otherwise.
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Here are a few more. The Duncan in the middle has some smearing on the name and the one on the left has the name printed somewhat lighter. Two of the Odoms have a fisheye in the right border. The others are more one-offs I believe. I do not know what to make of the 66 but it has an odd sheen, the Fernando rookie has really dark printing on one version and light on the other and the 69 Deckle has part of the back showing on the front.

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The 1966 Wickersham is probably a Venezuelan, the 1969 Deckle Edge Allen is a wet sheet transfer.
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Thank you Cliff! I thought the 66 might be a Venezuelan but I have had a few of those from 66 and while they looked like mine, they did not have the same feel. I am probably misremembering though so I will go with it being one. A wet sheet transfer makes sense on the Deckle.

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Picked this up at a show yesterday:

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I realize it's off-centered,but do you think the print mishap would take down the grade as well if I sent it in? It's a pretty sharp card otherwise.
What causes this double printing of the black?
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What causes this double printing of the black?
I believe the whole sheet was double struck in error during the final black ink printing process by the printer.
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I believe the whole sheet was double struck in error during the final black ink printing process by the printer.
Yep.

Interesting it's off so much. Usually these happen when a sheet feeds wrong and the image is still on the blanket for a second pass while it also gets a new image.
This also can happen during press adjustment.
Like this one where they were moving the black into registration, and it's got I think 5 impressions.

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