PWCC cracks me up

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would love to know why the FBI investigation apparently went south, can only speculate, but presumably we won't know.

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

I don't think that's it, because Brian Brusokas from all indications pursued this very hard. My guess is that whatever US attorney was in charge had concerns at the end of the day about proving it beyond a reasonable doubt with admissible evidence. And the government does not like to bring cases where there is a significant doubt whether it can prevail if it goes to trial. In court it's not aws simple as the before and after pics on Blowout, however compelling those might be in the court of public opinion.

At some point it seems a fair inference that Brent decided he would not cooperate/plead guilty, and that may have thrown this off where it was going. But I'm guessing.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

I assume the FBI was involved in the eventual arrest of Mayo McNeil--the 82 year old dude who was moving reholdered PSA cards for the fella in Mexico. I do not have the numbers but my sense is that economically speaking, the damage done by just the cards sold by Mayo over his entire time involved in that fraud was a fraction of the fraud that was/is committed on an annual basis by others who were being investigated at one point.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I assume the FBI was involved in the eventual arrest of Mayo McNeil--the 82 year old dude who was moving reholdered PSA cards for the fella in Mexico. I do not have the numbers but my sense is that economically speaking, the damage done by just the cards sold by Mayo over his entire time involved in that fraud was a fraction of the fraud that was/is committed on an annual basis by others who were being investigated at one point.

Tiny drop in the bucket but they probably had an open and shut case.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Tiny drop in the bucket but they probably had an open and shut case.

FBI has busted several hobby related crimes that amounted to next to no money because they were easy to prosecute. Mayo did not pose a threat to the hobby. Sure the dude slabbing the cards in Mexico is still at it too.

This was simply a threat to PSA's brand...sorta. PSA did not really care if an unsuspecting collector spent 100K on a fake card. They cared if an unsuspecting collector bought a 100K fake card and then swore off buying the PSA brand.

Card doctoring is not a threat to PSA. Seems like they love it because otherwise there would be no vintage 9s or 10s or 52 Topps Mantles that were VG that are now in 7 holders. More money for the slab means more dollars sent PSA's way.

[Casey2296]

Not to disparage any FBI agents on the sub but they pick prosecutable low hangin fruit, much like the breakdown of society the wound is still infected and will fester and grow.
If we approached crimes like our Communist brothers in China all it would take is one card doctor getting life in prison to stop the whole merry go round.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

Since most of the "victims" are more than willing participants they do have way more important things to chase.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

Originally Posted by bnorth

Since most of the "victims" are more than willing participants they do have way more important things to chase.

Like an ex-President and a porn star?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Like an ex-President and a porn star?

You should probably leave politics out of it. Especially considering everything the current President is involved in. What does the bible say....let he who has no sin cast the first stone?? It is high time to put down the bag of stones.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

You should probably leave politics out of it. Especially considering everything the current President is involved in. What does the bible say....let he who has no sin cast the first stone?? It is high time to put down the bag of stones.

It was sarcasm, strictly joking about the FBI having "way more important things to chase".


I have no horse in your race. We have the biggest idiot "leader" in history up here to worry about.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

It was sarcasm, strictly joking about the FBI having "way more important things to chase".


I have no horse in your race. We have the biggest idiot "leader" in history up here to worry about.

If comments were graded, this one would receive a 10.

[boysblue]

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[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by irv

If comments were graded, this one would receive a 10.

I'm still dumbfounded at all the crap I see politically. And to think...I could care less growing up. Now that I am older. I care. I care when I buy gas and groceries. Thank goodness cards are coming down in price. Because everything else is going up.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Thank goodness cards are coming down in price. Because everything else is going up.

I keep reading this, but I'm perplexed because all the cards I've been buying just keep going up. Every auction it seems I have to pay a new all-time high to get what I want. However, I don't pay much attention to other segments of the hobby. I'm mostly a late pre-war to early post-war collector. Ruth, Ted Williams, Mantle, Mays, Jackie, and Hank all seem to be doing quite well. Which cards have been coming down in price for you?

[chalupacollects]

I have no horse in your race. We have the biggest idiot "leader" in history up here to worry about.[/QUOTE]

Sorry second biggest and its not even close...

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

I have no horse in your race. We have the biggest idiot "leader" in history up here to worry about.

Sorry second biggest and its not even close...[/QUOTE]

No..He's the biggest....Carter can pass away easy now.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Like an ex-President and a porn star?

Or a laptop

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by raulus

Just a guess - resource constraints and more important investigations to chase.

Heard they had an impenetrable defense