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Old 04-04-2023, 10:00 AM
Keith H. Thompson Keith H. Thompson is offline
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Default because my integrity and lack of proper communication has been called in to question

I will give my version of the time line.

1. April 2, 9:58 PM (from Paul) Keith, let me know if you are going to pay, or if you changed your mind because I just got messaged by someone to let them know if the person doesn't pay. So, just let me know or PayPal F&F

2. April 3, 11:55 AM (from Keith) "want desperately to pay for the Vendor's Badge"

3. April 3, 1:01 PM (from Keith) "trying to figure out how to send by PayPal"

4. April 3, 1:11 PM (from Paul) Keith don't I'm not sure it's authentic

5. April 3,1:24 PM PayPal transaction ORP25085UL020001U 360.45 (currently pending) (transaction appears as *pgrus.... )

I am very familiar with items like medals and sports related artifacts that have been doctored to indicate they were awarded to a known athlete and hence appraised (and sold) in four figures by auction houses. These appear to come from England, but the methods are available to anyone. An example known to me was a Sam Thompson item and sold in spite of objections of fake, including myself.

I am not an adversarial person by nature, and it was not a private message, but I did indicate in one of my posts that I wanted to purchase, "authentic or not."

The entire time line is less than 24 hours, and I do not see how I can be faulted for lack of interest or reasonable response.

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Old 04-04-2023, 08:58 PM
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I will give my version of the time line.

1. April 2, 9:58 PM (from Paul) Keith, let me know if you are going to pay, or if you changed your mind because I just got messaged by someone to let them know if the person doesn't pay. So, just let me know or PayPal F&F

2. April 3, 11:55 AM (from Keith) "want desperately to pay for the Vendor's Badge"

3. April 3, 1:01 PM (from Keith) "trying to figure out how to send by PayPal"

4. April 3, 1:11 PM (from Paul) Keith don't I'm not sure it's authentic

5. April 3,1:24 PM PayPal transaction ORP25085UL020001U 360.45 (currently pending) (transaction appears as *pgrus.... )

I am very familiar with items like medals and sports related artifacts that have been doctored to indicate they were awarded to a known athlete and hence appraised (and sold) in four figures by auction houses. These appear to come from England, but the methods are available to anyone. An example known to me was a Sam Thompson item and sold in spite of objections of fake, including myself.

I am not an adversarial person by nature, and it was not a private message, but I did indicate in one of my posts that I wanted to purchase, "authentic or not."

The entire time line is less than 24 hours, and I do not see how I can be faulted for lack of interest or reasonable response.

Keith
#2 is entirely untrue. I rec'd ZERO email/pms from you after the initial "I'll take it" email. Whereas I sent you a few messages, none receiving a response. We can have Leon check if need be, and you will be 100% proven incorrect. Check your sent messages file on here and take a screenshot, post it. Would love to see these messages. #3 was posted in the thread which I didn't see until I had already been to the Post Office to send it back to the original seller, so I did not see that message until it was on its way back. Thus 24 hours too late. Again, you sent me zero personal messages within 24 hours. By then it was on its way back to the seller.

Or just drop it already, I've given you the original Seller info., you can contact them for it. You will get it cheaper. Not sure the uproar. I just personally didn't want to sell a fake item, but Al next time I get a fake I'll be sure to come to you for first dibs.

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Old 04-05-2023, 12:49 PM
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#2 is entirely untrue. I rec'd ZERO email/pms from you after the initial "I'll take it" email. Whereas I sent you a few messages, none receiving a response. We can have Leon check if need be, and you will be 100% proven incorrect. Check your sent messages file on here and take a screenshot, post it. Would love to see these messages. #3 was posted in the thread which I didn't see until I had already been to the Post Office to send it back to the original seller, so I did not see that message until it was on its way back. Thus 24 hours too late. Again, you sent me zero personal messages within 24 hours. By then it was on its way back to the seller.

Or just drop it already, I've given you the original Seller info., you can contact them for it. You will get it cheaper. Not sure the uproar. I just personally didn't want to sell a fake item, but Al next time I get a fake I'll be sure to come to you for first dibs.
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#2 is entirely untrue. I rec'd ZERO email/pms from you after the initial "I'll take it" email. Whereas I sent you a few messages, none receiving a response. We can have Leon check if need be, and you will be 100% proven incorrect. Check your sent messages file on here and take a screenshot, post it. Would love to see these messages. #3 was posted in the thread which I didn't see until I had already been to the Post Office to send it back to the original seller, so I did not see that message until it was on its way back. Thus 24 hours too late. Again, you sent me zero personal messages within 24 hours. By then it was on its way back to the seller.

Or just drop it already, I've given you the original Seller info., you can contact them for it. You will get it cheaper. Not sure the uproar. I just personally didn't want to sell a fake item, but Al next time I get a fake I'll be sure to come to you for first dibs.
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Old 04-10-2023, 02:49 PM
Keith H. Thompson Keith H. Thompson is offline
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Default I've been advised to "drop it already" and

Shoeless Moe claims that I never paid him, yet that has not prevented someone from cashing the PayPal F&F payment in the amount of 360.45 that he requested.

Since he "returned the pin to the seller" the instant he learned that it "was not authentic" this seems unfair and a violation of BST's presumed ethical policy.

Shoeless Moe also says that if he gets any more fakes, he knows where to send them. I hope so. I look forward to more "fakes" like the Bennett Park Vendor Badge.
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Old 04-10-2023, 03:20 PM
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Keith, I understand you're a "senior" senior (in your 90's), can you maybe have your son or daughter, or a grandkid, assist you?

I never got any payment from you. If you do not know how, ask them to 1. look into it, where the payment went. 2. To produce a screenshot. Either post it here or message me it.

I have still yet to get one message from you. All your messages are posted here.

If you got the badge from the seller, you should be happy. Again, I am the one the connected you two, yet you still complain.

I understand grumpy old man syndrome, we'll all get that one day most likely, but seriously if you are out money, you need to look into that. Ask someone to assist you with your Paypal. If not a family member, then even someone here, if you have a trusted friend here. They can look into.

You either sent it to someone else, or you made a typo if you sent it to my Paypal, which would explain why I'm not seeing it. Check that. Compare the 2.

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Old 07-03-2023, 03:45 PM
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Keith, another fake badge on Ebay if you are interested:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23507570970...Bk9SR8SYvNqjYg
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