Ebay seller scam story-Paul Slapnicker Pauld49 BEWARE

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Directly

The authentication process may have been developed to help prevent fraud--once a card is receive and authenticated, they forward on to the buyer--

If the buyer tries to return the card, I assume the item first goes back through the authentication process, but not sure--??

Yes unless you have it set to no returns. I still offer 14 days and if the seller returns it the item goes back through authentication so the buyer can't scam the seller by returning something different. The authentication thing is amazing in so many ways by getting rid of the tricks scammers use.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes unless you have it set to no returns. I still offer 14 days and if the seller returns it the item goes back through authentication so the buyer can't scam the seller by returning something different. The authentication thing is amazing in so many ways by getting rid of the tricks scammers use.

I did not know this, and yes it does seem to be very helpful.

Not to do the cliché' "walked to school uphill both ways" moment, I remember in the 90's and eBay was sending a money order to the seller and then they would send the item. The postal clerk thought I was a weirdo getting 25 money orders at a time each visit.

I never once, not a once got ripped off because the feedback system worked pretty decently.

It would have been a snap to rip off people but we just live in a different time, different society, different attitude. More so, I guess it was too niche to bring these clowns on too.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I did not know this, and yes it does seem to be very helpful.

Not to do the cliché' "walked to school uphill both ways" moment, I remember in the 90's and eBay was sending a money order to the seller and then they would send the item. The postal clerk thought I was a weirdo getting 25 money orders at a time each visit.

I never once, not a once got ripped off because the feedback system worked pretty decently.

It would have been a snap to rip off people but we just live in a different time, different society, different attitude. More so, I guess it was too niche to bring these clowns on too.

Back then you could leave feedback for anyone at anytime, even if you didn't buy/sell to them. Also some sellers would extort positive feedback from buyers by holding their feedback back. Buyers were afraid of retaliatory feedback. The feedback system now still has flaws but its better than it was.

[Yoda]

I really thought that Net 54 had chased this guy into the wilderness, but I guess not.
Two points. He claims that Mick is graded a PSA 9.5 (impossible) and posts a nice scan of him. But where is the slab, the evidence we need. Of course, it's not there. I think there are probably better scammers in the first grade than Paul.
And. Leon, in that cool pc you posted, I believe mustachioed Paul is the gent on the far right, slouching in the chair, hat pulled down to disguise his evil face. When the other guys asked about the 200 pound sailfish, Paul admitted that he ate it all on the way....raw, including the bill.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I really thought that Net 54 had chased this guy into the wilderness, but I guess not.
Two points. He claims that Mick is graded a PSA 9.5 (impossible) and posts a nice scan of him. But where is the slab, the evidence we need. Of course, it's not there. I think there are probably better scammers in the first grade than Paul.
And. Leon, in that cool pc you posted, I believe mustachioed Paul is the gent on the far right, slouching in the chair, hat pulled down to disguise his evil face. When the other guys asked about the 200 pound sailfish, Paul admitted that he ate it all on the way....raw, including the bill.

To the bold part. Yes that is 100% true. The thing most people don't get is scammers can be extremely stupid and still scam tons of people. They only have to be smart in one small area of life to be able to be a successful scammer. That is why you see bad baseball items from $1 to millions of dollars. There is a scammer for every part of the hobby.

I have also noticed in life those that always complain about being scammed and act worried about it are most likely to be scammers.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by bnorth

To the bold part. Yes that is 100% true. The thing most people don't get is scammers can be extremely stupid and still scam tons of people. They only have to be smart in one small area of life to be able to be a successful scammer. That is why you see bad baseball items from $1 to millions of dollars. There is a scammer for every part of the hobby.

I have also noticed in life those that always complain about being scammed and act worried about it are most likely to be scammers.

Yep. And people who talk about how dumb scammers are, are the most likely to be scammed.

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[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Back then you could leave feedback for anyone at anytime, even if you didn't buy/sell to them. Also some sellers would extort positive feedback from buyers by holding their feedback back. Buyers were afraid of retaliatory feedback. The feedback system now still has flaws but its better than it was.

I get that there was the flaws, any system does.

Admittedly, I stopped selling on eBay about 3 months after the removal of leaving negative feedback for buyers. The option to block buyers with negative feedback scores or even without minimum feedback (I had mine set at a minimum 10 positive feedbacks to bid) kept my bad buyer experiences at a number near nonexistent.

All it took was less than 12 weeks of a buyer free-for-all for me to drop out for the past 15 years or so of selling on there.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I get that there was the flaws, any system does.

Admittedly, I stopped selling on eBay about 3 months after the removal of leaving negative feedback for buyers. The option to block buyers with negative feedback scores or even without minimum feedback (I had mine set at a minimum 10 positive feedbacks to bid) kept my bad buyer experiences at a number near nonexistent.

All it took was less than 12 weeks of a buyer free-for-all for me to drop out for the past 15 years or so of selling on there.

In my experience I get about one bad buyer/seller every 100 transactions. Luckily nothing serious but a PIA.

The feedback system is completely worthless IMO. I just looked and one of the long time eBay scammers has a little over 10K feedback at 100% positive. This guy is such a long time scammer i remember talking about him back on the eBay forum section when they still let you post about scammers on their site.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by bnorth

In my experience I get about one bad buyer/seller every 100 transactions. Luckily nothing serious but a PIA.

The feedback system is completely worthless IMO. I just looked and one of the long time eBay scammers has a little over 10K feedback at 100% positive. This guy is such a long time scammer i remember talking about him back on the eBay forum section when they still let you post about scammers on their site.

I concur that the feedback system no longer has any utility.

It's a big part of the reason why I'm a big fan of the new AG program for anything over $250.

[StraightRaceCards]

Reminded me that I needed to go back through this amazing thread.

I appreciate the laughs. Thank you, n54!