T213's rarity compared to T206

asphaltman · #1 03-24-2023, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jggames

Personally I like having the Type-1s in my T206 set. I was going after them pretty hard the last couple years and I think they�re closer to BroadLeafs and CBs not UZITs�the T215s however are closer to UZITs (in my opinion). Here�s one of my pages with both.

Nice Coupon and Red Cross!

MVSNYC · #2 03-24-2023, 08:57 AM

There's way more knowledgable collectors here then me, as it relates to Coupon & Red Cross (I've owned 2-3 Coupons, but they never did much for me, compared to the T206 backs), but it is my impression, and according to T206 Resource, Coupon Type 1's are close to CB's and Blank Backs as far as rarity goes, and Red Cross is close to BL 350 and Black Lenox. Neither near the rarity of Red Hindu or Uzit.

The Red Cross in particular, though, is a great looking back.

jggames · #3 03-24-2023, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Coupon Type 1's are close to CB's and Blank Backs as far as rarity goes, and Red Cross is close to BL 350 and Black Lenox. Neither near the rarity of Red Hindu or Uzit.

The Red Cross in particular, though, is a great looking back.

Apologies for taking a tangent into a Red Cross discussion, but purely for anecdotal evidence�in the last 4 years or so, I was able to add Lenox, BLs, RHs and UZITs long before having the opportunity to get a Red Cross back. Could just be a timing issue, but it was the one back that was truly hard to find relative to the others mentioned.

puckpaul · #4 03-24-2023, 10:29 AM

They are cool cards, but sometimes scarcity works against you as they dont trade and are hard to collect. Seems to be the case for these somewhat. If you feel that makes them undervalued, buy the ones you find!

DeanH3 · #5 03-24-2023, 10:46 AM

Coupons are extremely tough. I do think they are under-valued compared to T206's. Obviously due to demand, which we know is key.

PSA Pop for these three. Couldn't access SGC pop at the moment so I'll check later.

Type 1 - 1
Type 2 - 30
Type 3 - 12

Pat R · #6 03-24-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanH3

Coupons are extremely tough. I do think they are under-valued compared to T206's. Obviously due to demand, which we know is key.

PSA Pop for these three. Couldn't access SGC pop at the moment so I'll check later.

Type 1 - 1
Type 2 - 30
Type 3 - 12

Type 1 - 5
Type 2 - 53
Type 3 factory 3 - 4
Type 3 Factory 8 - 1

atx840 · #7 03-24-2023, 12:04 PM

Nice binder page Jason! Have any other Coupons?

Rhotchkiss · #8 03-24-2023, 12:50 PM

As many on here know, there are several non-T206s that have same the pictures as contained in the T206 set. They are: T213, T214, and T215.

There are 3+ types of T213's: Types 1, 2, 3 and Type 3 factory 8 overprint.
There is only one type of T214
There are 3 types of T215: Pirate, and Types 1 and 2.
Pictures of all of these Back-Types and variations (other than T215-2, which is same as -1), are below.

It is widely regarded that none of these are T206s, however, arguments can made made that T213-1 and T215-1 can be considered T206 because they were distributed in 1910. There is zero chance any of the other variations/types can be considered T206 because none of them were distributed between 1909-11, which is when T206s were distributed.

Many people who do back runs try to get all of the non-T206 variations and consider them necessary to a complete back run (see Jamie's Red Cobb run).

As far as rarity, in my experience, T213-1 is on par with Carolina Brights, while T215-1 is more rare and on par with, or even rarer, than Drum (Brown Lenox and Brown Old Mill being by FAR the rarest of all backs). T213-2 are fairly common. T213-3 are rare, but can be found, however, the Fact 8 Overprints are super tough and many are 1 of 1's

Meanwhile, T215 Pirate is wicked tough. These are almost never seen and tougher than T206 Brown Mill, which is the rarest of all T206 backs; I have only seen 4 that were not part of the singular, almost-complete set out there. T214 is crazy rare, and likely on par with a T206 Brown Lenox.

DeanH3 · #9 03-24-2023, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

Type 1 - 5
Type 2 - 53
Type 3 factory 3 - 4
Type 3 Factory 8 - 1

Thanks for the assist, Pat.

Even the Type 2 Matty is still under 100 graded.

Stonepony · #10 03-25-2023, 08:15 AM

My Type 2 Cobb314EB394-CA9C-4DA2-A2B0-EC61D59BBD22.jpg

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