Popular National Acquisition - Covid

[Mark17]

Usually, as in, almost always, I am disgusted when government lies to us to control the masses. However, I have to admit, there is one exception.

When Covid broke out, and people were dying, panicking, and demanding/begging government (which is, to many, the ultimate parental figure) to "do something," I thought then and think now the mask mandates were a good idea.

Not because they worked, but because it calmed people down and gave them a sense of control and safety. Masking up was something everyone could do, to give them confidence to go about living their lives. Masks were a placebo, and placebos often provide serious benefits to those who use and believe them.

Did the government outright lie about the effectiveness of masks? Maybe. Did masks help? Perhaps not medically, but from a societal perspective, I would argue they did.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by tpeichel

Have you seen the data analysis from Edward Dowd?

I am not familiar. Drop a link if you would?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Usually, as in, almost always, I am disgusted when government lies to us to control the masses. However, I have to admit, there is one exception.

When Covid broke out, and people were dying, panicking, and demanding/begging government (which is, to many, the ultimate parental figure) to "do something," I thought then and think now the mask mandates were a good idea.

Not because they worked, but because it calmed people down and gave them a sense of control and safety. Masking up was something everyone could do, to give them confidence to go about living their lives. Masks were a placebo, and placebos often provide serious benefits to those who use and believe them.

Did the government outright lie about the effectiveness of masks? Maybe. Did masks help? Perhaps not medically, but from a societal perspective, I would argue they did.

I think it is a bad thing when the state completely lies to the population. It becomes absurd when the defense for everything the state does is the appeal to authority. People were terrified because of the government and media stroking up a fear, as they have done many times. It sure wasn't the people who looked at the datasets and calculated a much lower than 1% risk rate that were panicked to leave their basement and go about life. The only thing I'm scared of is that my neighbors prefer lies and to outsource their thinking to Pfizer and the state while immediately forgetting each lie as it becomes indefensible or continue to insist on obvious absurdities while screeching at anyone who deals with reality.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by G1911

I think it is a bad thing when the state completely lies to the population. It becomes absurd when the defense for everything the state does is the appeal to authority. People were terrified because of the government and media stroking up a fear, as they have done many times. It sure wasn't the people who looked at the datasets and calculated a much lower than 1% risk rate that were panicked to leave their basement and go about life. The only thing I'm scared of is that my neighbors prefer lies and to outsource their thinking to Pfizer and the state while immediately forgetting each lie as it becomes indefensible or continue to insist on obvious absurdities while screeching at anyone who deals with reality.

Masking was pretty harmless. My opinion of how the whole vaccine issue was handled is quite a bit different. Not saying the vacs were good or bad, but I took 3 shots and am glad I did. However, proper testing should've been done, with large control groups, before it was forced on people under threat of losing jobs.

There was and is potentially massive downside to the vaccines and their development and implementation was rushed. It was, essentially, experimental. My point was, with masking the downside was pretty benign while the upside was a lot of people continuing to live their lives with some degree of confidence and less fear and stress.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Masking was pretty harmless. My opinion of how the whole vaccine issue was handled is quite a bit different. Not saying the vacs were good or bad, but I took 3 shots and am glad I did. However, proper testing should've been done, with large control groups, before it was forced on people under threat of losing jobs.

There was and is potentially massive downside to the vaccines and their development and implementation was rushed. It was, essentially, experimental. My point was, with masking the downside was pretty benign while the upside was a lot of people continuing to live their lives with some degree of confidence and less fear and stress.

I don't think that it being less than lethal is any justification for state lies, intrusions onto liberties, and criminalization of those who do not go along with said lies (as it was in my enlightened state). That's a philosophical difference.

[tpeichel]

Originally Posted by tpeichel

Have you seen the data analysis from Edward Dowd?

This is a summary thread which includes links to the source data from BLS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DowdEdwar...62585008836609

[G1911]

Originally Posted by tpeichel

This is a summary thread which includes links to the source data from BLS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DowdEdwar...62585008836609

Thank you, I'm diving in

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by G1911

I don't think that it being less than lethal is any justification for state lies, intrusions onto liberties, and criminalization of those who do not go along with said lies (as it was in my enlightened state). That's a philosophical difference.

Ordinarily I would agree with you.

[tpeichel]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Masking was pretty harmless. My opinion of how the whole vaccine issue was handled is quite a bit different. Not saying the vacs were good or bad, but I took 3 shots and am glad I did. However, proper testing should've been done, with large control groups, before it was forced on people under threat of losing jobs.

There was and is potentially massive downside to the vaccines and their development and implementation was rushed. It was, essentially, experimental. My point was, with masking the downside was pretty benign while the upside was a lot of people continuing to live their lives with some degree of confidence and less fear and stress.

Losing trust in institutions is a massive downside.




https://heroesvsvillains.substack.co...he-damage-done

I know I will never view governments in the same way again as I did pre-covid. Any residual trust has gone completely.

I will never again trust the BBC and the rest of the mainstream media, and, as a former journalist, that is a deep gash.

I will never quite trust doctors or nurses who fell into line and stayed silent – and still do.

Or so-called scientists and academics who, again, stayed silent, or were prepared to fudge the truth to protect their grants and jobs.

Or police who turned so easily from community-supporting crime fighters to unthinking, ruthless, masked-up, tooled-up government enforcers, breaking up peaceful protests and political meetings.

Or hysterical teachers and their unions who gave away their great lie that ‘the children must come first’.

Or most churches, temples and mosques for their complicit silence and hate-inspiring statements, such as ‘Jesus would want everyone to be vaccinated and to do otherwise is an act of selfishness’.

And then there are the neighbours, friends, family members and strangers who displayed a total lack of critical thinking; who put me, and my like, at risk with their compliance. They still do. What jeopardies do they hold for us in the future with their weak, blind and unnecessary obedience?

They were complicit in the theft of more than two years of my life.

My worldview has changed forever

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by tpeichel

Losing trust in institutions is a massive downside.

In the midst of the initial panic over Covid, and people calling on leaders to do something, would it have been better to have the panic level elevated considerably by having the government say:

"We have no idea what to do. We suspect there is nothing we can do. So, you're all on your own. Try to distance, don't cough on each other, and if you get symptoms, self quarantine."

Whether masks were effective in stopping airborne Covid particles is debatable, but I would think, if nothing else, stopping gobs of phlegm, snot, and mucus from flying about had to help at least a little.

[Carter08]

Listen to a local doctor you trust. If that is a controversial thought to you, examine whether you think you’re smarter than you actually are.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Listen to a local doctor you trust. If that is a controversial thought to you, examine whether you think you’re smarter than you actually are.

Covid was a new virus to everyone. Doctors didn't have all the answers either, and not all doctors agreed.

If one doctor tells you to isolate and my doctor advises people to get outside, be active, breathe fresh air, reduce stress, then what?

You frequently rely on the "appeal to authority" mindset. But how do you reconcile when authority figures disagree? For instance, when thousands of scientists say that "man-made climate change" is either non-existent or at worst, overblown, are you a "science denier" if you don't believe them?

At some point, people have to do at least some thinking for themselves. For some it's hard, but people need to do more of it, generally IMO.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Listen to a local doctor you trust. If that is a controversial thought to you, examine whether you think you’re smarter than you actually are.

What about examining if you are "smarter" than they are?

What an IQ test? It's an asinine comment you keep posting.

You do know most medications just mask symptoms and come with side effects,.sometimes worse than the ailment?


How many prescribed Oxycontin, Nexium, prilosec, paxil, chantix, etc

Most drug companies are fined because of kickbacks. False.claims and fraud. How can a doctor possibly know this?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Covid was a new virus to everyone. Doctors didn't have all the answers either, and not all doctors agreed.

If one doctor tells you to isolate and my doctor advises people to get outside, be active, breathe fresh air, reduce stress, then what?

You frequently rely on the "appeal to authority" mindset. But how do you reconcile when authority figures disagree? For instance, when thousands of scientists say that "man-made climate change" is either non-existent or at worst, overblown, are you a "science denier" if you don't believe them?

At some point, people have to do at least some thinking for themselves. For some it's hard, but people need to do more of it, generally IMO.

It’s a specialized area that you are not trained in. Go to medical school if you feel passionately about it. Until then, you are kind of like a child playing doctor. Worse yet, it has been drawn on political lines. Rare to see someone like republicaniass in support of what his doctor would recommend. That makes no sense. It was a medical issue - not a political one.

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Listen to a local doctor you trust. If that is a controversial thought to you, examine whether you think you’re smarter than you actually are.

Personally, I didn't end up having a doctor that I could trust with a vision issue involving 'blue light poisoning' which developed in my mid 30's. This was after seeing 3 local doctors/specialists and then being referred to the U of Mich with no answers from them, either. I ended up fairing better by doing some of my own research and being my own health advocate. My Mother has preached that for years, and she's right.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Personally, I didn't end up having a doctor that I could trust with a vision issue involving 'blue light poisoning' which developed in my mid 30's. This was after seeing 3 local doctors/specialists and then being referred to the U of Mich with no answers from them, either. I ended up fairing better by doing some of my own research and being my own health advocate. My Mother has preached that for years, and she's right.

I’m glad that worked out for you. In a hospital setting I agree do your research and ask all the questions and you have to advocate for yourself or for your kids. T if that turns into teaching kids they should following their gut or their own research over what their doctor recommends that’s a bridge too far.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Carter08

It’s a specialized area that you are not trained in. Go to medical school if you feel passionately about it. Until then, you are kind of like a child playing doctor. Worse yet, it has been drawn on political lines. Rare to see someone like republicaniass in support of what his doctor would recommend. That makes no sense. It was a medical issue - not a political one.

Thanks for the personal insult. See if you can focus... what do you do when "experts" disagree?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Carter08

It’s a specialized area that you are not trained in. Go to medical school if you feel passionately about it. Until then, you are kind of like a child playing doctor. Worse yet, it has been drawn on political lines. Rare to see someone like republicaniass in support of what his doctor would recommend. That makes no sense. It was a medical issue - not a political one.

Only one side of the aisle actually could actually believe it's a political decision and not a personal one. I dont even know what political affiliation my doctor is, nor care. I do know he is not paid to keep me well, he gets paid either way. I also know only a handful of people, if that, have my best Interest at heart.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Thanks for the personal insult. See if you can focus... what do you do when "experts" disagree?

If you take politics out of global warming and the vaccine you will see that experts don’t really disagree. An overwhelming majority of them are on one side of both issues. I think politicians or talking heads are trying to create a disagreement for you that is not actually there.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Only one side of the aisle actually could actually believe it's a political decision and not a personal one. I dont even know what political affiliation my doctor is, nor care. I do know he is not paid to keep me well, he gets paid either way. I also know only a handful of people, if that, have my best Interest at heart.

K he took an oath and all that and has a duty of care. Hard to argue with someone that thinks his doctor is out to get him. Find a different one? Or go find someone that agree with you? Might take a while though.

[irv]

Carter's hero, Carter's god, the arbiter of anything medical out lying to the people. Imagine that, a "doctor" "science himself" doing something like that.
(This vid was taken down pre Elon but is now back up, thankfully)
https://twitter.com/bac37/status/163...89019701764116

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by irv

Carter's hero, Carter's god, the arbiter of anything medical out lying to the people. Imagine that, a 'doctor" "science himself" doing something like that.
(This vid was taken down pre Elon but is now back up, thankfully)
https://twitter.com/bac37/status/163...89019701764116

I thought you claimed my local doctor was my hero? Now it’s someone else? Pick a lane. I dare ask who is you hero on these topics lol.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I thought you claimed my local doctor was my hero? Now it’s someone else? Pick a lane. I dare ask who is you hero on these topics lol.

LOL. Didn't even watch the vid.

My hero's, because I know better than to trust T.V. man and the corrupt and crooked govt, are those who got silenced, shunned and kicked to the curb.
It's too bad you weren't able to think for yourself. I can't imagine what it's like lying in bed every night worrying wondering if you and your family are going to be OK this year or in the years ahead. That's gotta be tough.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by irv

LOL. Didn't even watch the vid.

My hero's, because I know better than to trust T.V. man and the corrupt and crooked govt, are those who got silenced, shunned and kicked to the curb.
It's too bad you weren't able to think for yourself. I can't imagine what it's like lying in bed every night worrying wondering if you and your family are going to be OK this year or in the years ahead. That's gotta be tough.

Of all the posters in this thread you are the one that seems like the one who would be up nights worrying about the future.

Have you learned what the big end game for all this is yet?

[irv]

Hmm. And no one knows why? Imagine that.

A deadly type of cancer is on the rise in young adults and we don’t know why
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...Xyf?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/color...-why-1.6772096

Remember when they said women's menstrual cycle screw ups was also a conspiracy theory?
Thousands report unusual menstruation patterns after COVID-19 vaccination
https://www.science.org/content/arti...19-vaccination
https://news.ohsu.edu/2022/09/27/glo...enstrual-cycle
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/covid-...irms-1.6087787

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Of all the posters in this thread you are the one that seems like the one who would be up nights worrying about the future.

Have you learned what the big end game for all this is yet?

Now I’m confused, Irv is the one laying in bed terrified that Climate Change is perpetually ten years away?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by irv

LOL. Didn't even watch the vid.

My hero's, because I know better than to trust T.V. man and the corrupt and crooked govt, are those who got silenced, shunned and kicked to the curb.
It's too bad you weren't able to think for yourself. I can't imagine what it's like lying in bed every night worrying wondering if you and your family are going to be OK this year or in the years ahead. That's gotta be tough.

Irv, I think between the two of us you are the one that has been convinced to stay awake and fear. God bless you though. Hobby Lobby needs to sell conspiracy theory strings and thumb tacks to someone. Soon the pattern in the newspapers will reveal itself to you.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Mark17

Usually, as in, almost always, I am disgusted when government lies to us to control the masses. However, I have to admit, there is one exception.

When Covid broke out, and people were dying, panicking, and demanding/begging government (which is, to many, the ultimate parental figure) to "do something," I thought then and think now the mask mandates were a good idea.

Not because they worked, but because it calmed people down and gave them a sense of control and safety. Masking up was something everyone could do, to give them confidence to go about living their lives. Masks were a placebo, and placebos often provide serious benefits to those who use and believe them.

Did the government outright lie about the effectiveness of masks? Maybe. Did masks help? Perhaps not medically, but from a societal perspective, I would argue they did.

right like duck and cover doing russia nuclear war crisis, hiding under the table will protect you from nuclear bomb...something we all can do...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Carter08

If you take politics out of global warming and the vaccine you will see that experts don’t really disagree. An overwhelming majority of them are on one side of both issues. I think politicians or talking heads are trying to create a disagreement for you that is not actually there.

define overwhelming majority on vaccine , 60%? 90%? Just because one side is at 70%, it doest mean they are right or at least right for a specific person. there are many areas in science where more than 50% of experts thought one thing and turned out to be wrong. Are you a wacko if 30% of respected experts in a field are on your side...?


also what is the 'vaccine' i am speaking about vaccine mandates...not just against vaccine....its the mandate which is the issue..

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Now I’m confused, Irv is the one laying in bed terrified that Climate Change is perpetually ten years away?

Very little of this thread is about climate change. Most of it is the government killing people with a virus and a poison masquerading as a vaccine. Dale seems extremely concerned about this and many other lies he is uncovering from the amateur experts on tic toc, tweeter, and facebook.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right like duck and cover doing russia nuclear war crisis, hiding under the table will protect you from nuclear bomb...something we all can do...

Those grade school desks back is the 70s were way tougher then you would think.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by tpeichel

This is a summary thread which includes links to the source data from BLS.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DowdEdwar...62585008836609

I read through his 3 part linked analysis of absence rate data.

I am not compelled; this seems to be ignoring significant factors to reach the conclusion it wants to reach. Number 1, many employers gave (and some still are giving) unlimited PTO for Covid or to go get vaccines. Thus people milked it, because who doesn't want extra free days off? There is also a movement that has arisen, not directly from Covid but possibly related to lockdown ideology, among younger people of doing as little work as possible without getting fired. I am not surprised absences are up by a lot. That the absence rate from work is up significantly doesn't mean the vaccine is harming or killing a significant number of people. His point that rates are up higher in 2021 and 2022 rather than 2020 means it is the vaccine is not good - tons of people were on furlough or terminated almost immediately when the pandemic started and thus weren't absent from work because there was no work at all. The people remaining at work skewed to those who sought to work anyways even when they didn't have to, and thus aren't as likely to call in. Workplace policies of unlimited sick PTO for Covid were mostly put in place in 2021 or very late 2020. There has to be better than this for it to have any validity.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

define overwhelming majority on vaccine , 60%? 90%? Just because one side is at 70%, it doest mean they are right or at least right for a specific person. there are many areas in science where more than 50% of experts thought one thing and turned out to be wrong. Are you a wacko if 30% of respected experts in a field are on your side...?


also what is the 'vaccine' i am speaking about vaccine mandates...not just against vaccine....its the mandate which is the issue..

Climate change is on the order of 98%. The vaccine being safe plus effective is still being looked at obviously but surveys of doctors have it in the 90s as well. Send me something where 30% of medical professionals think the vaccine is unsafe and/or ineffective. It’s politics that have you thinking that’s remotely possible as reality.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Climate change is on the order of 98%. The vaccine being safe plus effective is still being looked at obviously but surveys of doctors have it in the 90s as well. Send me something where 30% of medical professionals think the vaccine is unsafe and/or ineffective. It’s politics that have you thinking that’s remotely possible as reality.

here you go with the spin. are you saying doctors in the 90 percent agreeing with the vaccine mandate........

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

here you go with the spin. are you saying doctors in the 90 percent agreeing with the vaccine mandate........

Not sure what mandate in particular you’re talking about. It varied from area to area. I highly doubt it would be that high of the question was mandated vaccine or jail or whatever. I think a lot of folks here have done just fine in terms of their liberty and yet are not vaccinated. You’ve created a boogeyman that does not exist and you’ve taken it so far as to say the vaccine is killing people with no benefit. Ask a doctor about that theory.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Now I’m confused, Irv is the one laying in bed terrified that Climate Change is perpetually ten years away?

Going on 40 yrs now wondering when the 10 yrs is going to start, Cliff. I'm exhausted!

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by irv

Going on 40 yrs now wondering when the 10 yrs was going to start, Cliff. I'm exhausted!

But-but-but, 98% of scientists are in complete consensus and the other 2% are paid shills of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates!

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

But-but-but, 98% of scientists are in complete consensus and the other 2% are paid shills of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates!

Super smart thinking. Bravo.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

But-but-but, 98% of scientists are in complete consensus and the other 2% are paid shills of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates!

I for one am shocked that 98% of people whose reputations, careers and funding require them to find that X is true determine that X is true.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

I for one am shocked that 98% of people whose reputations, careers and funding require them to find that X is true determine that X is true.

I for one am shocked that this issue is drawn on political lines instead of scientific lines. Listen to scientists, literally look up what the consensus is on climate change. Not shocking that affluent right leaning types on a baseball card forum don’t “believe” in it but you just sound silly.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

But-but-but, 98% of scientists are in complete consensus and the other 2% are paid shills of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates!

If the data is against me, those collecting it and studying it are part of a conspiracy. So text book it’s kind of funny. Except actually very sad.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Not sure what mandate in particular you’re talking about. It varied from area to area. I highly doubt it would be that high of the question was mandated vaccine or jail or whatever. I think a lot of folks here have done just fine in terms of their liberty and yet are not vaccinated. You’ve created a boogeyman that does not exist and you’ve taken it so far as to say the vaccine is killing people with no benefit. Ask a doctor about that theory.

again with the spin, you always add new tidbits to your argument to fit your narrative that are not a topic of my discussion or add things i didnt say... .

we all know there were different forms of vaccine mandate, tennis players couldnt play and earn money, since this is sports forum, basketbal players couldnt pay in new jersey without a vaccine, doctors support that at 90? police were fired and military were let go, nurses and doctors were not allowed to work even when had natural immunity, due to the 'mandate' 90 percent of experts go with that ?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by irv

Going on 40 yrs now wondering when the 10 yrs is going to start, Cliff. I'm exhausted!

can be climate change but the efforts to 'help' can be wrong. EV cars arent better than fossil fuel cars as far as the enviroment or co2 right now...a little damage to a battery the whole car is totaled which can happen with very little miles on it....you need to drive the EV car a bunch before you see any net benefits.... windmill issues and the like.... many experts say the TECH isnt there yet but we forcing people to change their lives , gas will be expensive again and people will be unable to heat their homes.. etc

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

again with the spin, you always add new tidbits to your argument to fit your narrative that are not a topic of my discussion or add things i didnt say... .

we all know there were different forms of vaccine mandate, tennis players couldnt play and earn money, since this is sports forum, basketbal players couldnt pay in new jersey without a vaccine, doctors support that at 90? police were fired and military were let go, nurses and doctors were not allowed to work even when had natural immunity, due to the 'mandate' 90 percent of experts go with that ?

You don’t get to back off from your claim that the vaccine is killing people and is ineffective. Now are you saying it’s safe and effective but it shouldn’t have been mandated? Did you get one? Not sure how mandated it was then.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Carter08

You don’t get to back off from your claim that the vaccine is killing people and is ineffective. Now are you saying it’s safe and effective but it shouldn’t have been mandated? Did you get one? Not sure how mandated it was then.

again more spin, it was mandated for a very long stretch of time, and i didnt make the claim you said..i did say you should be able to sue if get sick...

you always add things i didnt say in your arguments and change the goal posts.... i keep asking did 90 percent of the doctors/experts agree with the vaccine mandate in any of its various forms .. you can also put school closing with this as well if you wish...did 90 percent of experts agree it was good to close schools..

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Carter08

If the data is against me, those collecting it and studying it are part of a conspiracy. So text book it’s kind of funny. Except actually very sad.

Heroic Climate Warriors All.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

But-but-but, 98% of scientists are in complete consensus and the other 2% are paid shills of the evil fossil fuel conglomerates!

Originally Posted by G1911

I for one am shocked that 98% of people whose reputations, careers and funding require them to find that X is true determine that X is true.

It is quite amazing that 98% have all concluded that global warmings is real.
It removes all doubt when a prior president said the science was settled.
I was always under the impression that the science was never settled but since he said it was, (The Master of division himself) why would I not believe him?

I wonder what they are going to tell us to be afraid of next? I've lived practically my whole life in a perpetual state of fear so I hope something new is coming along because I'm not sure how to go about living my life without it, without being in that constant state of fear that distracts me and keeps me from thinking for myself?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I for one am shocked that this issue is drawn on political lines instead of scientific lines. Listen to scientists, literally look up what the consensus is on climate change. Not shocking that affluent right leaning types on a baseball card forum don’t “believe” in it but you just sound silly.

It isnt, ONE side if the aisle made this up!

It would be impossible for a virus to be partial.


Unless you think you vaccinated germs are less deadly than others unvaccinated germs.


If you can't see the hypocrisy, ask your doctor (local hero) those on the front lines...

Plenty of people working in hospitals didnt get the mysterious super contagion. Some would say God, others would say Luck was on their side. Guess what, it was because they frequently washed their hands with soap and hit water! There is nothing else different. Maybe the doctor is smarter (that's for your Carter, or maybe his hypo-CRITIC (sic) oath)

Plain as the nose on your face..."wait what's that down there, I cant see past it"

High blood pressure redefined for first time in 14 years: 130 is the new high...doctor prescribes medication because....

1. he is too woke to say maybe try diet and exercise for 99% of cases?

2. People want a quick fix and think by making the symptoms with meds they are better?

2 doctors out of 3 I know that are worth their salt have retired due to insurance changes regarding time spent with patients.. remember where their paycheck is coming from before you listen to anyone

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Those grade school desks back is the 70s were way tougher then you would think.

It was the lead paint and asbestos!


You remember, 2 things they told us that were safe

Add Dexamyl (dexedrine) and thalidomide to the list.


Listen to your doctor Carter...they are listening to you and your needs. Maybe they can adjust your coping cocktail just a hair.


Medication time...medication time....Cheswick

[1952boyntoncollector]

News (fake news) science (follow the science) has forever been changed